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To: dwight martin who wrote (87131)11/12/2000 8:25:13 PM
From: kech  Read Replies (1) of 152472
 
OT <Well, then, who requested the manual recount in Seminole County, a Republican stronghold?>

On three different talk shows this morning Baker denied that there had been a request by his campaign for a "manual recount" in Seminole county. He did indicate that some ballots not counted by a machine were hand counted but this was apparently done at the initiation of the local canvas board. To be honest, the distinction sounds unclear to me but it does suggest local discretion of the board was taken.

<Well, the object of a recount is to confirm the counts of the tallied votes, and also to determine the intent of the voter when a
VALID ballot has been cast but not tallied for mechanical reasons. The requirement that a ballot be valid as a precondition for
being counted in the manual recount (most prominently, that it not have have two holes or attempted holes for president) is
something that
Lying Jim Baker doesn't mention, because he wants to confuse in the public's mind the lawful and defined manual recount with
the (baseless, IMO) alleged lawsuits claiming that poor ballot design caused confusion among the elderly and asking for a
re-vote.>
I really don't follow this point. There are some "overcounts" that are being considered by the manual tally not just "undercounts". This is another part of the issue that there is no standard. As I listen to the speakers it is Warren Christopher who constantly switches back and forth between the recount and the ballot issue (sometimes within the same sentence) and obfuscates the difference between the two not Baker.

I guess it is ok to have different ballots and standards for counting (as long as they are consistent internally) but so far even Palm Beach was not consistent internally on the same day - see "light test" vs chad test. This is Baker's point that there is ample ambiguity and the potential mischief that is determining a national election.

It doesn't seem to bother you that 4 counties in Florida are counted differently than the other counties because Bush could have challenged all the other counties. I don't think that is really correct. They can only challenge on the basis of some alleged "aberration" in the tallies.

I agree that the Republicans are "between a rock and a hard place" on the obvious point that locally the mission of the board is to county every VALID vote even though on a state level, if different counties go to varying extremes in this charge then by definition it means that votes are counted differently and some voters will be disenfranchised relative to the voters in these four counties. I guess Baker is banking that the federal judge will see the obvious wisdom of this point.

Why didn't the Bush team also demand recounts in other counties? Perhaps they didn't want to invent irregularities as Christopher/Daley did or perhaps they didn't want to sanction more "manual" counting than necessary given their current lead. They had a slim chance of overruling the "manual counts" which they preferred to starting down the manual count path. I don't know. I assume it will cost them the election though but we will see tomorrow.
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