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06:24am EST 13-Nov-00 Salomon Smith Barney (Jonathan Joseph 415-955-4998) INTC The Semiconductor Beat
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November 13, 2000 SUMMARY * Brokers report they have begun to wrap up their Jonathan Joseph Christmas season in trading of microprocessors, and 415-955-4998 expect a slower market now going into COMDEX and the jonathan.joseph@ssmb.com holidays. Dunham Winoto * Average Intel processor prices fell about 2% to a 415-951-1875 6% discount to list, while average AMD processors fell by about 1%. The exception was AMD's popular 1GHz Athlon, which spike 17% on the week. * DRAM prices continued to weaken, with 64Mbs falling to $3.50 from $3.85 by week's end, and 128Mbs falling to $8.25 from about $8.90; "unbranded" DRAMs were trading about 10% lower for both. * High-density Flash prices fell sharply last week, with 32Mbs falling to $60 from $70; low-density products were more stable. MICROPROCESSORS: CLOSING THE BOOKS FOR THE YEAR
This year is shaping up to be weaker than the seasonal norm. There have been some reports of a slight pickup in demand for processors in the last couple of weeks. For example, Advanced Micro (AMD, 2S) suggested at their analyst meeting last week that October was disappointing but that the first couple of weeks of November showed a rebound. Some of our microprocessor brokers contacts are reporting that activity in the last couple of weeks has been "active", but down from higher levels seen in September and October. This week is Comdex, the next week is Thanksgiving, and then only three weeks to Christmas. As one broker put it,"some guys have already closed their books for the year." And after New Year, we head into the seasonally weak period.
Prices on all Intel (INTC, 2M) processors fell by about 2% to a 6% discount to list last week. In addition, some brokers were reporting Intel is cutting list prices on some of its P-III processors this weekend, just two weeks since the last price cut. The normal schedule for such price cuts has typically been every other month. AMD's processors held up their prices a little better, dropping about 1% on average from last week. There was a 17% spike in Athlon 1GHz parts, which could be an indication of a pre-Christmas rush.
Probably one of the more impressive points AMD made at its analyst meeting was how well its manufacturing is going. AMD announced that it has demonstrated test structures on its 0.13 micron process technology, and would begin production of shrink versions of the "Pony family", the high-end Palomino and low-end Morgan by Q4 of next year. The company expects to produce 1.5GHz processors by Q2 and greater than that speed in 2H. As a side note, it appears that the Mustang, the workstation processor, has been cancelled, to be replaced by the already planned-for Palomino. Intel also announced that it has completed development of its next generation 0.13 micron process technology, which should generate processors running at 1.6 GHz, and above. Intel has talked about producing a 2GHz Pentium 4 by Q2 of next year, which would put it ahead of AMD in terms of processor speed, but not necessarily in overall performance.
DRAM SLAMMED AGAIN
Just when we thought that memory prices could not possibly fall any lower, they did. We received quotes from brokers for "unbranded" 64Mbs at $2.80, an all- time low and as much as $3 below tier-two suppliers' "all-in-costs". Spot market prices in Asia for "branded" 64Mb-equivalent parts were $3.50 by Friday, down from $3.85 the week before. We estimate that contract prices for 64Mbs are running at $4.50-4.80. Meanwhile, 128Mbs fell late in the week to about $8.25 (2.3x premium over 64Mbs) from about $8.90, the price 64Mbs were selling for as recently as July. There are also reports of "unbranded" parts in Asia trading in the mid-$7.00 range. We figure 128Mbs are common enough now that they will continue to move toward parity (2x the price) with 64Mbs. Overall demand continued to be slow, and we were hearing fresh reports from brokers that the inventory overhang at OEMs and suppliers may be worse than initially thought. This came on the back of local Korean press reporting that at least one Korean supplier was further converting capacity over to foundry and Flash memory. As mentioned, DDR SDRAM was in the news again last week, first with AMD announcing it would ship its DDR-capable 760 chipset in Q1, and press reports that DDR modules from Samsung will ship in Q1, apparently three months ahead of plan. Similar parts from NEC and Infineon (IFX, 2H) can be expected around the same time. Meanwhile, Taiwan's leading memory makers, including Winbond, ProMos, and Powerchip announced their support for DDR in place of Rambus DRAM, citing lack of support for that standard.
HIGH-DENSITY FLASH TUMBLED AGAIN; LOW-DENSITY STABLE
Once again, the average "open market" prices for high-density Flash parts (8Mbs and higher) dropped significantly, ending the week about 7.5% lower following a much more modest 1.1% decline the week before. This past week 32Mbs took the biggest hit, trading sharply lower from $70 to $60 or a 14% decline on the week. At least one broker said a buyer was offering him $19 for his Intel 5v TSOPs, compared to prices of about $80 only six weeks ago. Other lower density Flash parts fared better during the week, with 16Mb TSOPs (the standard part for cellphones) weakening slightly from $19.75 to $18.00, and 8Mb TSOPs from $11.17 to $10.67. On the other hand, 4Mb and 1Mb SOJs were flat, as they have been for the past four weeks, at $8.25 and $5.50 respectively. Supply in the channel across most densities were reported to be generally good. According to our Taiwan analyst, Andrew Lu, customers at one Taiwanese supplier have begun to ask for more competitive pricing in the face of increased competition from Korean suppliers. The same supplier also disclosed that 16Mbs accounted for about 60% of total shipments, with 4Mbs following behind. At its Thursday analyst meeting, AMD told analysts its own average Flash prices would increase through next year as its average density continued to scale. Though demand remains very strong, supply continues to come on at a rapid pace. AMD is increasing its output from 2 fabs this year to 5 next. The Korean press reports that Samsung is looking to reduce its dependency on DRAM by expanding its non- DRAM output, including Flash, at its Onyang plant by 2002. And of course, most other Flash players have announced a doubling of capacity from this year to next. |