>>Do you blame the prosecution for not making motions that favor the defense?<<
absolutely - if the have evidence that points to an innocent person on trial. MANY folks are wrongly sitting in jail as we type b/c of conscienceless das that KNOW folks didn't commit a crime to a high certainty but were out to win anyway.
did you see that combat movie w/ samuel l jackson - was it courage under fire? they tried to railroad him and withheld evidence to do it. this is WRONG! that govt official was a punk! folks that do it should get double the time that the person on trial is facing, imho.
wrt the law.
>>The system tries to be fair, Skeets, in that it is set up to allow both sides equally to maneuver for personal gain.<<
right, the law says you can request hand counts and the votes MUST be completed within 7 days. the same for both sides, right? it seems the democrats were just plain dumb for not having the manpower required to complete these recounts. they didn't b/c they planned poorly. why should the law be changed to allow for poor planning? is the law good when it supports one side but a bad manipulation when it supports the other?
>>With a lead like that, the loser would be calling for a recount in a city council race, for goodness sake.<<
yes, and one of the canvassing board members overlooking part of this mess in florida DENIED a repbulican candidate's request for a recount when he lost by a single digit amount of votes... said it "wasn't even close." hmmmmmm... seems as shady as a biased sec of state, imho. this is PRECISELY my point. both sides are manipulators trying to take this election any way the law will allow them to do it. there is NO DIFFERENCE. the hypocricy is oozing from both sides.
>>I agree with you that Gore would be a higher ground if he had called for a full recount earlier. But he chose to follow normal procedure<<
not entirely. dade county didn't have the "butterfly ballot" issue. gore still requested a recount. hmmmm... when dade county officials decided not to expand their hand count - they were threatened with a gore lawsuit. hmmmm... normal procedure or MASSIVE manipulation? the latter appears more realistic, imho.
btw, the sec of state is also following "normal procedure" and the "rule of law." floridians put jeb bush in office and floridians are responsible for this sec of state. the will of floridians is to have her make these decisions. they are getting EXACTLY what they asked for.
>>Gore was the overall winner of the court actions this week, not the loser.<<<
this is really insignificant. gore didn't win anything other than he didn't officially lose - as it should be. the question facing the court is whether they want to be known as the body that over ruled florida laws and their interpretation by a sec of state that florida put into power to decide this election. does the court want to be remembered as choosing the us president? i doubt it. i think one of two possible scenarios will occur.
1. bush wins.
2. a mandatory statewide hand recount of ballots will be ordered.
>>This week the Republicans were trying to "call time" on the election, i.e. certify it today, and to prevent recounts;<<
just as florida law states it should be. again, why is it when republicans follow the law they are "calling time." when the demos follow the law they are following "normal procedure." i sense a bias.
>>the result of the various court judgements is that the recounts continue and the election will be decided in the Florida State Supreme Court (if not the US Supreme Court).<<
yes, the courts have to interpret the law. make no mistake, though. both parties are manipulating laws and rules for their own personal gain. each is so far in the gutter that even a soap box can't elevate them above the filth.
>>Why do you say that a manual recount would be a "no win/lose" situation for the Republicans? It is, after all, a Republican controlled state.<<
the republicans are winning now. they can't win more. they can only lose. it is a no win / lose proposition and you can bet if the roles were reversed that the demos would be fighting any kind of recount w/ similar vigor and hypocracy. btw, you can also bet that the sec of state would have a different ruling...
>>You know, manual recounts are part of the normal election process in a tight race and the Republican party never had anything against them up until now. <<
yes, the pubs are not intellectually honest and they aren't intellectually consistent. on this we agree. i see very clearly that the dems have the exact same problems. the democrats are vicious - like when they began to spread the rumor nader was gay b/c nader wouldn't drop out of the election. make no mistake, the dems are ruthless sobs - just like the pubs. selfish, self centered and power hungry - screw the good of america. this has never been so obvious, imho.
as a last note, i originally thought the pubs were dumb for not requesting hand counts in their districts. however, more data has caused me to rethink the position. they knew the law and they followed it. the dems want to change the law to allow their ballots to count. i do not believe any court will decide this election outright - and i think that is a reasonable assumption. worst case scenario is that either supreme court mandates a statewide hand recount. guess what? the pubs will start their hand count as the dems are finishing. the pubs will KNOW what number they have to beat - and somehow they will try and get it.
pretty conniving, imho. the dems will be extremely jealous when they find out how they had been played - they wished they could have thought of something as sinister. |
