Re: I can't however fathom, the reason why you would make such an effort to to try to prove something
Annoyance with Herr Engel's nonsense can produce considerable motivation. Compare his posts to mine and tell me who's posting more aggressively.
Re: You don't seem to have any in depth knowledge of the markets that these products are intended.
I am a part of the market. I specify systems using products from both companies, and have been doing so for 15 years. I am a customer. Also, I've taught both computer science and economics at the university level.
Re: I can't understand the reasons why you are making such an effort in making the case for the Athlon that I don't beleive even Jerry Sanders can be making.
In high school, I worked as a mechanic nights and weekends because I loved machines and I love computers even more. I became a policy analyst with mainly an Economics background running very large simulations on early mainframes, where it was necessary to gain a pretty good understanding of the systems to develop models that could be run in less than a day (which was pretty much necessary for getting a job to run to completion). I went back to school to learn about what was a far more interesting set of gadgets than the cars I'd worked on in my youth. I'm one of those people who finds complex machines endlessly fascinating. I have to admit that recent discussions have taken on tinges of rooting for a sports team.
You are not on the Intel design team with inside knowledge of the rationale, design decisions and tradeoffs that went into the design and developement of the P4. You don't seem to have any in depth knowledge of any application areas where performance of the P4 is crucial to make such definitive judgements
I suspect I have more in depth knowledge of the application areas than the majority of the chip architects. I work developing and deploying application while those guys design chips. I do what I do, while they do what they do. Before you decide that Intel's high level design decisions are always good, or even often good, consider what I posted well over a year ago about Intel's decision to stick with RDRAM - and I certainly wasn't the only one who saw this coming. How come Intel couldn't figure it out?
Rambus seems to have been something of a disappointment so far and if all current design efforts at INTC are based upon the expectation that Rambus will be the main available memory technology for the next several years, INTC could be forced to make minor to major changes in chipsets, motherboards,and processors. This would impact (not crush - impact) many aspects of the most profitable part of their business.
Message 10764184 - Sunday, Aug 1, 1999 9:03 AM ET
Intel has a great history of doing well with X86 instruction set and - amazingly when you consider the resources at their disposal - very poorly on everything else. iapx432, i860, merced, were all been touted as killer chips that would overwhelm everything else in the market, and all turned out very late and very limited in performance. I know, merced (Itanium) hasn't failed yet. Give it time, it was expected to run at 800MHZ last year against 400MHZ SPARCs. Now it will enter the market early next year at that same speed against deeply entrenched SPARCs that will be running at 950MHZ. I wasn't posting much from 3 weeks ago to a week ago because I was in the field much of the time overseeing the implementation of a new system with SPARC server back ends and NT 4 clients. I have some familiarity with those markets.
You are on this thread virtually 24 hours a day and you average almost 20 posts each day. I just can't beleive that you have that much invested in AMD to make this effort that you are making.
It's become something of a hobby. I also have something of a bad stomach that often gets me up in the middle of the night. I have 4 networked computers in an office next to my bedroom that makes it very easy to post from (if I'm going to be up for a while anyway). By they way, if you think you're annoyed by all this, you should see how my wife feels!
Regards,
Dan |
