Oh Great Fabricator,
You got what you asked for.
I said dimpled ballots had been used. They have. Don't misstate that as "defense" of them like you tried before, dear Fabricator. It is a statement of fact - get it? Some examples provided. I suggest, if you really want to know and aren't just being a horse's butt, that you contact Rick Green yourself and ask him. If the article doesn't satisfy the Great Wizard Behind The Curtain, ask him about his msnbc interview and what he said determined his win.
Other examples were:
cnn.com
Brooks Jackson: 'Dimpled' ballots count in Texas
From Brooks Jackson/CNN
November 21, 2000
Web posted at: 11:00 p.m. EST (0400 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Dimpled ballots. Democrats are saying Florida ballots
should be counted where punch cards merely show an indentation. Republicans
say it's simply not enough.
They count them in other states --
including Republican candidate Gov.
George W. Bush's state of Texas.
Tony Sirvello supervises elections in
Harris County -- the largest in Texas --
where punch card ballots like those in
the disputed Florida counties have been
in use since 1982.
"Since we introduced punch cards in
Harris county in 1982, I've probably
done approximately 50 recounts," say
Sirvello, the county administrator of
elections. "At the beginning, some of
those were electronic. In the last 15
years, most of those have been manual
recounts. And in most of those manual
recounts, we have counted what the
media is calling 'dimpled chads.'"
Just last year in Harris County,
Houston voters produced a
squeaky-close race for a city council
seat. Mark Goldberg was the apparent
winner by a mere 26 votes, prompting
opponent Maryann Young to demand a hand recount.
Texas law specifically allows for counting dimpled ballots if "an indentation on
the chad ... is present and indicates a clearly ascertainable intent of the voter to
vote."
The Houston hand count found 97 more votes for Young that the machine count
had registered -- including some ballots that were merely indented. But the
recount also found 109 additional votes for Goldberg -- so he won the recount
by an even bigger margin than before.
It's not that hard for voters to merely dimple a ballot when they are trying to
vote, as Kim Brace of Election Data Services recently demonstrated to CNN.
"We've got a hanging chad right here. We've got a couple of chads that are
partially off. Here's a pimple or a dimple," says Brace.
Dimples were counted by the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court in a 1996
Democratic primary recount for Congress. Generally, state courts count ballots
where voter intent is clear.
During Monday's Florida State Supreme Court hearing, Bush's lawyers pleaded
ignorance of the Texas law. "I really don't know what Texas law is," Bush
attorney Michael Carvin told Justice Barbara Pariente.
Well, we know Texas law allows dimpled chads to be counted -- or any ballot
where the intent of the voter is "clearly ascertainable."
Now you want to argue whether dimpled and indented are the same thing or not?! That's downright farcical!
Now run along and play with someone else's words. |
