MES LEECH - INFOCAST CORPORATION (IFCC) CEO Interview - published 12/11/2000
DOCUMENT # LAG625
JAMES W. LEECH, is President, Chief Executive Officer and Director of InfoCast Corporation. Mr. Leech is a seasoned senior executive with a 26-year track record of building publicly owned companies in high technology and other sectors. Mr. Leech most recently served as Vice Chairman of Kasten Chase Applied Research Ltd., a data security and networking firm. There he staged a successful corporate turnaround and merged Disys Corporation, a high technology communication firm, into Kasten Chase. Earlier in his career, Mr. Leech served as President of Unicorp Canada, a financial services firm, building its assets from $50 million (Canadian) to $6 billion (Canadian) in five years. Subsequently, as President and CEO of Union Energy, Inc., he directed a growth strategy that took assets from $1.6 billion to $2.7 billion and culminated in a merger of the company into Westcoast Energy Inc., a $750 (Canadian) million transaction. Mr. Leech graduated with honors in Math and Physics from the Royal Military College of Canada, and holds an MBA from Queen's University, where he is the current chair of the Queen's School of Business Advisory Council.
Sector: application software
TWST: Could we start out with a history and a quick overview of InfoCast?
Mr. Leech: InfoCast started about a year and a half ago. Today, we are a public company listed on the Bulletin Board. We have established ourselves as a leading e-enabling service provider with unique product offerings in the customer care and employee/partner empowerment areas, which places InfoCast in a class of its own. Our offerings are: Contact, which is a virtual multimedia call center application; Community, which is a fully interactive online community for affinity groups; and e- Learning, which is an online training offering. We deliver these applications in a service provider model, i.e., we provide the complete infrastructure ' that is the software, the hardware, and the connectivity, for the customer, who pays on a per use basis. Accordingly, it's extremely cost effective. Basically, what we're doing is addressing the need of many organizations to have a solution that provides a cost-effective way of improving their efficiency, without having the challenge of implementing new technology.
TWST: Typically, who are the customers for these products?
Mr. Leech: There are really two target areas. For our Contact solution, we focus on the call center market, both outsourced call centers, and corporations who run their own centers. Almost every business now requires a call center. I believe there are approximately 90,000 call centers across the United States at the present time and they're all growing dramatically. That represents one vertical target market. InfoCast Community does target affinity groups but we are focused mainly on multi-level marketing organizations.
TWST: If we go back and look at the call center marketplace, who are you competing with there?
Mr. Leech: At the present time, we are not aware of anyone who's providing call center infrastructure technology in a service provider model. There are some companies out there that provide various components, but nobody that we've been able to identify who really has been able to pull it all together and provide a complete solution. We are the only one who provides a traditional call center with the ability to move to a complete multi-media call center. Our technology allows call centers to handle Web, e-mail, text chat, and push technology. Our solution also addresses staffing problems by turning the call center into a virtual call center, and providing agents with the freedom to work from anywhere. We provide the technology, not the people.
TWST: If the companies didn't come to you, would they have to do it themselves?
Mr. Leech: That's correct. They would have go the traditional legacy route of voice calls with switches that they can get from the major switch providers. We provide a total technology package that combines the best in voice and data technology. Our solution features voiceover Internet Protocol or VOIP technology and traditional data line service making it extremely reliable. The InfoCast Contact solution has simplified the Web-enabling process for traditional bricks-and-mortar call centers by creating a truly turnkey implementation process that only requires a data line.
TWST: Given the size of this market, what are the barriers to keeping some of the big players out?
Mr. Leech: Presently, the big players are tied to their traditional legacy voice solutions. Some of them are looking at using voiceover IP and integrating it into their legacy solution but they haven't yet been able to implement the technology. Our strategy is to align ourselves with some of the major channels. We are currently working with telcos to create channels of distribution. Our Contact solution would then be offered as a telco's solution, but would still be identified with the InfoCast brand. The main barrier any technology company faces is staying ahead of the marketplace. Our strategic partners have identified InfoCast's solutions as being at least six months ahead of the competition. Our goal is to maintain our positioning and always stay ahead of our competition.
TWST: As you look at this marketplace, what do you see going on?
Mr. Leech: There are a number of challenges that are facing companies in all industries. First, companies are looking to adapt and exploit e- commerce and the Internet. They are having difficulty trying to determine the best way to utilize this technology. Many companies are finding that development of the required infrastructure can be very expensive. Unfortunately, most companies are learning that mistakes are even more costly. By using our service provider model, we substantially reduce the risk by providing the required infrastructure through a pay- per-use basis. The customer only has to provide the connection and we provide everything else in a cost-effective manner. There are 90,000 call centers in North America, and over the next few years, approximately half of them are going to be required to provide multi- media customer service. Presently, only about 1% has this capability. In the next few years, there is going to be a tremendous push to Web-enable call centers. Second, the call center industry is growing dramatically due to the incredible influence of the Internet and the growth of e- commerce. Companies are being forced to incorporate call centers into their business in order to compete in the new Web-enabled economy. Third, traditional bricks-and-mortar call centers are faced with the realization that using three, eight-hour shifts, to answer telephone calls with peaks and valleys in telephone call patterns, just isn't effective. Also, agent turnover is dramatic in the call center industry, averaging about 35% to 40% a year. Most companies cannot afford high turnover, especially when it costs $25,000 to train one new agent. By using InfoCast Contact technology, companies have the ability to create a virtual contact center. The virtual contact center permits agents to work from their home or other satellite offices, decreasing overhead costs and encouraging agent retention. InfoCast Community, the division of InfoCast targeted at affinity groups, has developed communication and productivity solutions for multilevel marketers. There are about 27 million network marketers around the world representing a $90 billion business. In the United States, there are approximately 800 companies in the network marketing industry, with over 50,000 to 100,000 distributors. Their main challenge is taking the traditional multi-level marketing model and adapting it to the Internet. These groups are always looking for ways to improve communication and to keep their multi-level organization motivated and functioning. The InfoCast Community solution is an interactive technology portal that provides multi-level marketers with the ability to effectively communicate their message.
TWST: Who would some of the customers be in that space?
Mr. Leech: Our lead customer, an organization called Britt Worldwide, is comprised of approximately 1.2 million distributors in the Amway multi- level marketing organization. As our lead partner, we have designed the portal around their requirements. Our focus is to now offer the technology to similar organizations. This solution offers full Internet service, a customized gateway to the Web, and private communities designed for communication, recruiting, product information and sales techniques. It also provides the opportunity for electronic commerce enabling the purchase of goods and services. Finally, we anticipate that our distance learning application will be offered as an addition to the InfoCast Community solution.
TWST: What were they doing before they moved to your solution?
Mr. Leech: Multi-level marketing businesses were spending a considerable amount of time attending meetings, usually once a week, to gather with other people in the same down line to facilitate recruitment and to talk about sales techniques, hot products etc. The head of a down line would be required to spend time traveling from city to city, renting a room in a hotel, and paying the hotel for lousy coffee and doughnuts just to have one meeting. Using our Community solution, meetings take place online saving both time and money. It still provides the same functionality as a traditional meeting, allowing the participants to chat with each other through bulletin boards and chat rooms, but without the extra expense of hotels etc.
TWST: What kind of growth can you see in this ASP business over the next couple of years?
Mr. Leech: Actually, we are not a traditional ASP but rather an e- enabling service provider. We e-enable organizations with productivity solutions offered through the ASP model. InfoCast has now completed the research and development phase and our products are now customer-ready. We are executing our sales strategy and are starting to generate revenue through InfoCast Community and InfoCast e-Learning, which is an online education and training application. InfoCast Contact should be marketed, through a major channel, within the next two months.
TWST: What is going to be the strategy to get the product into the marketplace?
Mr. Leech: Our overall corporate strategy has been to create unique solutions. With our solutions in place, we have been able to establish some very significant partnerships. We have three partnerships that we will leverage in the execution phase. Our first partner is Sun Microsystems, and they are not only a partner but also an investor in InfoCast. They are also an equipment supplier, a channel to market, and a reference for clients. We have established ourselves as an Elite Provider under their Service Provider.com Program, one of the few companies that have achieved that level. Sun has been an integral component of our growth and will continue to be a driving force in our future success. AT&T has been our network provider, our connectivity, and a major strategic partner for InfoCast Contact. We have been working with AT&T to develop partnered sales channels, and are ready to sell alongside of them. Finally, Computer Associates, a leading global software provider, helps us by supplying customized software. With our strategic partnerships in place, we are ready to enter the marketplace.
TWST: Will you be doing your own sales or will it be through the partnerships?
Mr. Leech: Actually we will use a combination of sales strategies. For example, InfoCast Community prospects respond best to direct selling using a viral sales approach. Affinity groups, such as multi-level marketing groups, religious or, university educational organizations, are the perfect model for top-level selling. The sale is driven down the organization through viral marketing. This sales style is extremely cost effective because it doesn't require a large sales force. The Contact and e-Learning strategy is to use a combination of direct selling and channels through partnerships. Channels will become increasingly important as our products continue to grow.
TWST: What are you doing in distance learning?
Mr. Leech: Our distance learning offering is focused on online training. We have approximately 1,000 adaptive courses that we have obtained through the development of strategic partnerships with top course developers. InfoCast is not in the content creation business; rather, we're in the content delivery business. Our main focus is on call centers and affinity groups. Our goal is to offer online training as a value-add for both InfoCast Contact and InfoCast Community.
TWST: What is it that's proprietary about what you're doing?
Mr. Leech: The proprietary component of our e-Learning product is the delivery engine that we've developed called the Learning Management System. The system acts as a Registrar's Office by verifying course eligibility; it creates the desired curriculum schedule; it sends electronic invoices; and it reports student progress to the course supervisor. Our technology delivers the supplied content.
TWST: What should investors expect from the company in terms of growth over the next two or three years?
Mr. Leech: With our products ready to go to market, our focus is on generating revenue. We've assembled an experienced management team, we've formed our key strategic alliances, and we've developed unique core applications, which have exceptional market potential. With everything now in place, investors will see an emphasis on revenue generation. For example, in the last few weeks, we've signed contracts with new customers, generating revenues in excess of $2.5 million. Our emphasis is on pursuing new customers and continuing our revenue growth.
TWST: What should investors be looking for?
Mr. Leech: Watch for announcements of contract signings, channel developments, and growth within the Community and Contact divisions.
TWST: Do you have all the tools that you need now or will you be looking for acquisitions to fill things out?
Mr. Leech: Our present plan does not include any future acquisitions. Our divisions all work together to provide a complete offering. We will be focused on leveraging our partnerships, which are very strong. Fortunately, we have the financial and market backing of Sun Microsystems, a strong relationship with AT&T, and a partnership with Computer Associates. Together these relationships provide us with many resources and help to position us strategically in the corporate marketplace.
TWST: How did those partnerships come about?
Mr. Leech: Basically, the management team has been developing relationships with these companies throughout their careers. We have a strong management team, and they have each had very successful careers in building businesses or in marketing areas of service providing, call centers and affinity groups. Each of our team members are well known in their industries, especially to companies like Sun, AT&T, and CA. They view InfoCast as an efficient channel to get their business services and products into the markets we target.
TWST: Do you have the financial wherewithal that you need?
Mr. Leech: We've recently raised additional capital. In this industry, it is important to be always looking for additional sources of capital. The recent investment by Sun Microsystems was of major assistance. We have plans over the next three to six months to raise additional capital, as well as move the company to a major stock exchange.
TWST: Does the recent shakeout that has started in the whole dot-com world have any negative implications for you?
Mr. Leech: It has. Our stock was not been immune to the shakeout, which has been painful. However, we believe we've been able to work through this period and make significant progress, especially in the area of product development and product-to-market strategy.
TWST: How about from a business aspect?
Mr. Leech: From a business aspect, we haven't been directly affected. Our business plan wasn't predicated on selling our products to start-up dot-coms.
TWST: Does the market have a clear understanding of what you're doing?
Mr. Leech: One of our goals over the next few months is to distinguish InfoCast as an e-enabler, not a basic ASP.
TWST: When investors look at the company, where is the big risk at this point? What do you really worry about?
Mr. Leech: The largest risk factor facing companies in this industry is speed to market, and market penetration. With the partnerships that InfoCast has built and the target market we have been focusing on, we are prepared to penetrate the market at a much quicker pace than any other competitor. The flexible design of our technology allows us to make changes quickly and efficiently, if required. As a result, we are not dependent on any one technology providing us with the freedom to replace it with whatever is new on the market.
TWST: If you were sitting down with some potential longer term investors today, what two or three reasons would you give them to go out and buy your stock?
Mr. Leech: I believe the most important reason to invest in InfoCast is our experienced management team. We have brought together a group of people who know this business, and who have a track record of building very successful public companies. Second, I would highlight our key strategic alliances. This is what really differentiates us from our competition. Third, I would focus on our unique core applications and the exceptional market potential for these applications. Combined, these are the three key ingredients that will make InfoCast a successful public company.
TWST: Thank you. (TM)
JAMES W. LEECH Director, President & CEO InfoCast Corporation 1 Richmond Street West Suite 902 Toronto, ON M5H 3W4 CANADA (416) 867-1681 (416) 867-1679 - FAX www.infocast-corp.com
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