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Politics : Al Gore vs George Bush: the moderate's perspective

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To: long-gone who wrote (8794)12/12/2000 5:33:31 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (2) of 10042
 
Then you call what the Democrats are offering "freedom"? <i/>

Take it easy. I'm not trying to whitewash the Dems. All I said was that the Dems and the Reps each have a set of personal freedoms that they protect and a set of personal freedoms that they don't. I don't disagree with your list of Dem shortcomings. All I'm saying is that 1)the Reps are not perfect in the personal freedom arena, and 2)the Dems are stronger on the freedoms that are most important to me personally. I have no wish to own a gun, drain my swamp, chant group prayers in a classroom, avoid contact with gays, or vocalize ethnic slurs. Yes, I care if other people are deprived of the freedom to do so because I care about personal freedom as a principle. But my commitment is diminished when the people who want those other freedoms would cavalierly deny me the personal freedoms that affect me most. Most important to me is the freedom to make life and death decisions without running afoul of laws created by religious despots. Most particularly, if/when I'm subject to a grave/terminal illness, I want the decision making to be between me and my doctor with no interference from laws designed by the religious right.

I don't think the libertarian wing of the GOP will have credibility as libertarian until and unless they openly advocate those personal freedoms that are not popular with the religious right. The RLC statement of principles defines personal freedom as "...the right of an individual to act as he/she so chooses -- so long as he/she does not use force or fraud." Either they believe that or they don't.

The extreme of the Religious Right is only one faction with-in the Republican Party - though a vocal one. Were we to believe this same school of thought, All Democrats would be the environmental terrorists

I don't think that environmental terrorism is remotely in a class with the religious right. Terrorism isn't supported by the vast majority of greens let alone the Democratic Party. The religious right, on the other hand, has some of its freedom-depriving agenda right in the GOP platform. Bush's campaign speeches were full of it. You won't find environmental terrorism in any Gore campaign speech. You keep trying top say that the religious right is just a harmless, albeit vocal, fringe so it's ok for the Reps to just ignore them. It sure looks to me like they're getting more than lip service even from the libertarian wing.

Most all laws expressing restrictions on sexual expression are only in the southern states(Bible Belt) and were written many decades ago.

There was an effort a dozen or so years ago to revoke the particular laws I mentioned and it was smothered by the GOP.

I'm not trying to make the Democratic Party out to be the party of personal freedom. I can't get past the political correctness and the nannyism, let alone the rest. The best thing I can say about the Dems is that at least they don't wave a personal freedom banner while they restrict our personal choices as does the GOP.

Karen
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