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To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (1445)	1/18/2001 1:41:52 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) of 82486

Who's to say what is the right form of school prayer, either then or now? I was refering more generally to religious speech rather then specifically to school prayer. School prayer is to an extent a special case because you are talking about children who are required by law to attend school and the school in question is a government orginization. I question whether having government provide educational services on a mass scale is even a good idea (note government can pay for education without directly provideing it for an example see the GI Bill, or government scholarships and there are plenty of examples of government paying for other goods and services that get provided by the market rather then directly by government) but that is another question. School prayer is a little more complex issue then religious speech in general. I think some allowences for religion in schools should probably be made (after all religious kids are required to go to school as well), but that you have to be careful that it not become coersive or an offical part of the school administration. There are in my opinion cases where both sides of this issue go to far. In some cases there are (or at least were and possibly will be again) schools that made prayer or religion an official or semi-official part of the school. The other side overshoots with cases like when a school allowed to students to wear constumes but did not allow one to dress up as Jesus because it was religious. (Other students where allowed to dress up as things like a/the devil, or Adolf Hitler). Students have also gotten in to trouble for minimal relatively private religious discussions because teachers and administrators are afraid they will get sued if they allow any mention of religion. I think both sides on this usually avoid looking for any middle ground, instead they focus on the worst excesses of their opponents to find ammo to support that everything should swing 100% to their side of the issue. Personally I think there should be some attempt for a middle ground (or in the long run the question can be bypassed by phasing out public schools. Tim

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