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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank
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To: epicure who wrote (4284)2/2/2001 5:29:18 AM
From: bela_ghoulashi  Read Replies (1) of 82486
 
How:

Read both sentences as if you've never read them before in your life. Better yet, read them as if bland had written them rather than Ayers:

>>Thus if I say to someone, "you acted wrongly in stealing that money," I am not saying anything more than if I had simply said, "You stole that money." In adding that this action is wrong I am not making any further statement about it. <<

Sentence number one: "you acted wrongly in stealing that money" is a different statement than saying "you stole that money." The first statement explicitly adds a value judgement that is not explicitly present in the second statement. So a person making the first statement is in fact saying something "more" than a person making the second statement. And it is illogical to deny that "fact".
Therefore the sentence as a whole is both factually and logically incorrect. Ayers has written a sentence that is in its most basic and literal sense...wrong.

Sentence number two: "In adding that this action is wrong" you *are* in actuality and in fact making a further statement about it:

The beach ball is blue. The beach ball is blue and ugly.

Now...you don't have to agree with the value judgement that is being made, but you can't deny the "fact" that a value judgement has been added to the statement. Value judgements are just as "real" as "facts" are. Value judgements are a fact of human experience. Ethical perceptions are a fact. Subjective attitudes are a fact. They do "attach" to objects in ways that alter human behavior toward those objects. Therefore they have force, power, and influence. You can't wish them away or neatly write them out of your equations. They will still "act". Ayers might as well be arguing with gravity.
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