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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank
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To: cosmicforce who wrote (5847)2/14/2001 6:08:22 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) of 82486
 
I merely asked a question:
Do chimps have rights to liberty and life? They probably think so, but we don't.

You won't answer the question, but instead introduced both the modifiers "abstract" and "philosophical" as straw men. They add nothing to this discussion of rights or rights as absolutes.

I add "abstract" and "philisophical" because issues about rights to life and liberty are philisophical concepts.

My parrot got real grumpy if he didn't get out of his cage. He clearly thought it was his right to be out of the cage and was irritated that I didn't respect that.

Your parrot got grumpy if he didn't get out of his cage because he didn't like to be cooped up in it all of the time. I think it is a streach to say that he thinks he has rights that you are violateing. You might change my mind about chimps (probably not but there is a chance), but parrots have less mental ability then primates.

Edit -
"but [animals] don't IMO think about abstract philosophical concepts."

Third time. Upon what do you base this opinion?

On my general knowlege of animals. I have not participated in any studies testing this but I do not think it unreasonable to think that animals do not have the ability to think about rights or other philisophical concepts.

Tim
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