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To: Joe NYC who wrote (127706)2/17/2001 8:01:32 PM
From: Elmer  Read Replies (3) of 186894
 
Re: "It is interesting to see how the roles have switched, and how Intel is now the desperate company, pulling those tricks"

There is much confusion here. Intel isn't playing any tricks. Scumbria was confusing tjC with tcase. Intel was specing P4 at 72 deg C case temp while AMD is now specing Athlon at 95C die temp. It is unclear how the customer is supposed to determine the die temp unless AMD provides some sort of thermal diode sensing which the system can monitor. In any event, Scumbria was claiming (incorrectly) that Intel, by lowering the tjC to 70C, was overclocking the device and thus by implication risking reliability problems. In fact he had it backwards twice. (1)Intel was specing the case temp, not the tjC and (2)even if they were talking about tjC, by lowering the tjC spec Intel would be increasing reliability, not lowering it. How could Intel lower the tjC while increasing the frequency and voltage? It's a function of the physics, not the datasheet. They would have to raise it, or by lowering the case temp they would wick the heat away faster.
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