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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank

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To: Neocon who wrote (6578)2/27/2001 9:47:13 AM
From: Solon  Read Replies (2) of 82486
 
My assumption, from the context, was that it was a discussion of mankind's dominion over the Earth, and the creatures thereon. That is the use of "dominion" in Genesis, to which Solon seemed to refer. By the way, dominion is usually interpreted, at least nowadays, as "stewardship

Firstly, let me tell you how much I appreciate the "stewardship" that you and your little friend exerted on my behalf while I was away--by changing my words, and by attempting to belittle my morals.

"Human beings always deserve a degree of respect that enjoins..."

SAVE IT.

You don't like the word "dominion"? You think "stewardship" hides the truth a little better from your benefactors?? Why don't you cut the sophistry, Neocon?

STEWARD: "1 : one employed in a large household or estate to manage domestic concerns (as the supervision of servants, collection of rents, and keeping of accounts)"

I know what motivates you, Neocon! You can call it dominion; You can call it stewardship; Or you can just call it CONTROL.

You like to play with words, which is what you just tried to do on behalf of your little friend who had aserted that he indeed DID want to "EXERT CONTROL" over others. But would you like to know WHY you are built that way? Well, guess what? You are going to find out!

But first, I have a question for you: You spent yesterday putting on a disgusting performance tossing around something that you and Brees had made up around something I did not say. Here is what I did say (as you know):

"We are separate persons. You have no claim upon me, and vice versa."

Now, I'm going to say it again: I HAVE NO CLAIM UPON YOU. NOW, DO YOU HAVE A CLAIM UPON ME?? Do you have dominion over me, who has claimed none over you??

Oh, I forgot--I was going to tell you why you are obsessed with CONTROL. It is because you are an ANIMAL and are ignoble in the extreme. Now don't feel badly! Almost everyone is. :)

You see, the animal social order is structured in a hiercharchy, where the members compete for resources in the most competitive manner imaginable. They DOMINATE, RULE, and CONTROL. We sprang from this ruthless animal kingdom, and we are still there.

You are smug as you talk about man's (supposed) CONTROL over his environment, and over all other creatures. Are we to believe that "controllers" turn this character trait off when it comes to others of their OWN kind?! Or do they just try to sweeten up the words with "DOMINION" becoming "STEWARDSHIP", etc?! LOL!!

Oh, I had a question: I HAVE NO CLAIM UPON YOU. NOW--DO YOU HAVE A CLAIM UPON ME??

So here we come--crawling slowly away (but not out of) the animal kingdom. Now we have consciousness of the future; We have fears; We have a limited (but superstitious) knowledge of cause and effect. Now we begin to invent our human Gods.

But what characteristics do we give our human Gods? That is correct! Class, I wish you would all pay attention like Neocon has been doing! That is correct, Neocon! We made our human Gods like ANIMALS--The leader of the pack.

Our human Gods DOMINATE and rule and have DOMINION over their submissive and fearful minions. They PUNISH. They demand SACRIFICE. They have absolute CONTROL. It is the jungle in us. It is still the jungle in many of us who cannot escape from the drive to CONTROL and to have DOMINION.

Over time, many of these Gods have taken their rest, but one in particular remains to lead and guide His savage pack in their DOMINION (it is a God given right) over the earth and all of its creatures. This human (animal) God is (surprise!) one of the most vicious, cruel, dominating, punishing, and controlling in the history of Homo sapiens. You know His name. Some are so afraid of His Pack Leadership that they will not even write His name. They go like this: G-D.

I have a question for you: I HAVE NO CLAIM UPON YOU. NOW--DO YOU HAVE A CLAIM UPON ME??

Now why should this particular God be still able to exert His Dominion and "stewardship" (HA!) over the entire earth? Over all the decent and kind "good hearts and gentle people" who only wish to live as human beings--without Dominion over one another, and with only voluntary interactions where mutual benefit, and not CONTROL, is the goal? The answer to that question is easy and transparent--and profoundly disturbing: Because most of us are still animals; Most of us still want dominion and control; Most of us still unconsciously follow the evolutionary mode, inherent in the jungle, of the survival of the fittest. When we don't want CONTROL--we want to be a damn good follower, and a favored one...

We fashioned our God structure upon our animal experiences. We fashion our modern social structure upon our human God-Animal relationship--a hierarchy of CONTROL and DOMINANCE leading to our Ruler. Remember the Divine Right of Kings?

It doesn't matter whether or not you consciously follow a God or not. It doesn't have to be conscious. If you want CONTROL and DOMINION over me--you are following your ANIMAL instincts. Now I had a question for you:

I HAVE NO CLAIM UPON YOU. NOW--DO YOU HAVE A CLAIM UPON ME??

What matters is whether you live like an animal, and whether you treat others like animals (such as when you kick over their camp and assasinate their words while they are absent); Whether you arrogate to yourself, "stewardship" and Dominion, and whether your primary social effort is CONTROL and PUNISHMENT.

Were you doing God's work while I was away, or was it merely Your work? Do you realize it doesn't matter? They are the same thing if you are still an ANIMAL.

QUESTION:

I HAVE NO CLAIM UPON YOU. Now, DO YOU HAVE A CLAIM UPON ME??

Now, if you two puppies are going to irritate me with your DOMINION/CONTROL delusions, please bring a dozen or so fully growed mutts to nip at my heals. I like to kick a little real ass before I mate.

THE CATS HOME, KIDS! WOULD YOU LIKE A LITTLE MORE CHEESE?!
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