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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank
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To: TimF who wrote (8184)3/13/2001 12:29:12 PM
From: cosmicforce  Read Replies (1) of 82486
 
Re: Sometimes [communism] is even seen as a good idea that failed, either it was doomed to failure because of human nature, or it was just done wrong so it didn't work.


That's about the size of it. Like many well-intentioned dreams, it went awry due to the abuse of power - a natural and logical consequence of centralization imposed by force. That's why I'm against dogmatic repression by centralized governments - whether they are left or right.

It's pretty hard to argue that countries that have no socialism are better off than ones that don't. Do you know how many indigenous and Caribbean people died building the Panama Canal? The Central American states faired significantly better under leftist governments than they did under right wing governments. But I guess it is how you score. In terms of simple numbers (not adjusted by social standing) it was, on average, more benign than the right wing governments.

China's history is a bad example because they had been under the various hegemonic influences of Japan, the U.S., Britain: it is a whole different story and I think it would be hard to create a meaningful baseline from which to compare the relative merits of communism vs. imperialism. Imperialism seems to have more in common with fascism than collectivism.
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