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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (131011)3/28/2001 9:02:51 AM
From: Dan3  Read Replies (2) of 186894
 
Re: As for P4 - I don't think either Scrumbia or Dan3 could have done a better job

Well, you're half right - since I'm not a chip designer, but considering that Willamette finally surfaced after 5+ years of development by Intel's "dream team" that created the original PPro core...

Face it, in the only market where P4 and Athlon compete head to head (so far) P4 is making no headway against Athlon, and the next generation Athlon core has begun sampling.

Something went terribly wrong during the design process of P4, and it's likely that a number of chip architects would have been smart enough (or lucky enough) to avoid whatever wrong expectations led to those decisions.

There are now overclocker reports of Athlons (using the old core) running at 1.6 and 1.7GHZ with air cooling, and 2.15GHZ with LN2 cooling. That's just as high in GHZ as P4
and with far better IPC and mainstream software performance. Also lower die size and cost and lower infrastructure costs.

Scumbria correctly predicted both the low IPC and less than spectacular scaling that we've seen from P4 so far. Since he clearly was able to see those problems coming, he probably would have avoided them.

Dan
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