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Strategies & Market Trends : VOLTAIRE'S PORCH-MODERATED

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To: Cactus Jack who wrote (35053)3/31/2001 4:18:27 PM
From: im a survivor  Read Replies (5) of 65232
 
Simply amazing...dont know if any of you have lurked on the Porch at IHUB.....Seem's, it has turned into nothing but a "bash Tom" thread. All people do is bash Tom, and Dealie and Vendit spend all their time deleting posts and explaining why they are being deleted......a total Joke. Well, any and all of my posts, which have been very few, have been to stick up for Tom....to tell this Redmond person to get a life and etc, etc.......always sticking up for tom....today, I did the same thing...I made a post that said i didnt understand why this porch is supposed to be a place for friends of Voltaire, yet all it is is people bashing Voltaire. I told those bashers to get lost...go someplace else. A porch meant for voltaires friends is exactly that...yet all they do is bash tom and then wonder why their posts are deleted. Well, I told them to get lost...to go someplace else to another thread where they can live in their own little world, type what they want and not worry about dealie or vendit deleting their every post....I even stuck up for dealie and vendit and said they waste too much time having to police the thread and if the bashers wont leave, maybe the porch should be disbanded, because it certainly isnt achieveing his purpose.....amazingly, after sticking up for tom, sticking up for dealie and vendit, sticking up for the thread header and what it stands for.....I find that my post was deleted. I then went back to take a look and see that all my stuff was deleted, even a couple of posts that were 100% market related...one person commented about "the good ole days when cmgi was $300 " and will we ever see those days again....thats it..thats was the whole post...it was deleted...another person, asked me which way I thought the market was going....now, it just so happens this person is one of Vsters enemies....they fight back and forth....but she didnt even mention Tom....simply asked me which way I thought the market was going....thats it, period!. Yet the post was deleted......so after sticking up for tom on the ihub, I find out all mys stuff deleted, all stuff to me deleted, no matter what the substance was......heck somebody even sent me a private mail and said " keith, I am going to post a public message, 100% market related and I'll bet you $100 it gets deleted" I said no way, because I publicly saw both dealie and vendit mention to this person they are welcome as long as they abide by the spirit of Ihub and the spirit of the thread header which is not to trash Voltaire.....well, that person posted like they said they would......it was very simply.....something like "my charts are showing possible downside...whats your take on the market"...that was the whole post....well that was a week or two ago....I never even bothered checking....I saw the post when it was posted and there it was...i didnt think in a million years that post would be deleted...I mean delaie and vendit both told this person, " you are welcome to post...just stay within the rules".......well, I see now weeks later that that post was sure enough deleted, to my amazement....not a word about tom, just a two sentance post about the market.....wow, was I proved wrong...this person swore....said "watch and see, they tell me I am welcome, but $100 says they delete my post"...and damned if this person was not correct.

I also just noticed a couple of messages in my mailbox...I remember both....one person was asking me about which way I thought the market was heading and another had mentioned cmgi and the good ole days when cmgi was sky high......I remember reading those posts clearly....thats all they were....no mention of voltaire at all.....yet I see now those posts were deleted.......so, I guess I am to assume that for whatever reason, anything I post, or anything posted to me, regardless of whether it breaks ihubs TOS or the spirit of the thread header...will be deleted???!!!!....simply amazing.......sheez, I am so sorry i ever jumped all over redmond.....I think he was wrong for constantly bashing voltaire and copy and pasting his stuff....I stuck up for Tom at every turn......yet yall are now deleting me!!! Sheez, simply amazing....ya know, I am beginning to regeret my decision to tell the attorney that contacted me about Voltaire to go to hell......if this is how his friends are treated, maybe I am better of being an enemy.....dealer/Reid...I am very disappointed in the both of you over this....Reid, I have known you since the early aol days...have known tom since dell days....never had a problem...always respected both........now look what I get in return.......grouped with a bunch of idiots, when yall should know better.......

Frankly I am shocked an appalled.......Not only in that I keep sticking up for Tom, only to keep getting the shaft, but this person proved themselves correct, in that there was alterior motives at work....I was told beforehand that their post would be deleted, and it was...and it had nothing to do except the market........Folks this is not good. And I must admitt, I am very pissed that before I knew all this, I posted this morning, again sticking up for tom, dealie and vendit...telling his bashers to please go somewhere else....and they immediatley deleted my post....this is when I researched and found all my deletions...from me or to me.

I will say this....if this is how toms Friends are treated, maybe I am better of being an enemy. I mentioned that folks had contacted me privately about trying to get me to join a lawsuit against tom...I laughed, and of course said no. Tom, naturally made alot of jokes about this....what he doesnt know, because I wasnt going to say a damned word, is that within the last week or so, I was contacted by an actual attorney that is representing a group of people attempting to sue Tom. For two or 3 days, this attorney put the high pressure tactics on me to join in this suit.....I repeatedly told him no way. I will go on written record right now as saying, I have no part in this whatsoever and I told the attorney i would not be a part of it...no depositions, nothing and he did not have permission to use any of my written posts, which he asked for as well...I told him to get lost, I wanted no part of it.......I must admitt, after seeing how Tom's friends are treated, I am beginning to wonder why I told that attorney to get lost.

I fully expect this post to get me banned from this thread as well, so for those I respect and admire, I'll see ya somewhere else, but it is apparent I am not wanted around here by the few remaining folks left, and Toms protectors cant see a gift horse in the mouth.......I am very disappointed in you dealie...I stick up for your brother and you delete and ban me.....thats fine...whatever suits your fancy........ridiculous, but expected, I guess.

So, this is what sticking up for Voltaire is all about, huh.....Like I said, if this is what being his friend is all about....maybe I'll dig up that attornies phone number that I laughed at and told to get lost!!!

Sorry Tom....nothing personal, but frankly after sticking up for you on IHUB against your constant attackers, I am really beginning to wonder why I bother.....I sent Reid a private e-mail this morning telling him that I dont agree with everything you say and I dont believe in your angels or whatever, but I also told him I make my own decisions and others should too........I told him That I thought it was irresponsible of you to fully admitt you have a following, but then you joke about the fact that somebody could have possibly listened to you and cost them money.....Tom, why do you fully admitt that people follow you, yet you can't comprehend that some folks actually take your advice?? Instead of joking and mocking, a real man as smart as yourself should know people are taking your advice and you should know those that are are losing their ass....instead of showing any signs of remorse, you joke and make fun...you admitt to having many people following you, but can't see that maybe somebody did follow you and lost money???? Is it your fault? Hell no. It's the persons fault that made the trade. But that doesnt mean you shouldn't feel bad for that person. I dont think you have any idea how many people followed your advice, or actually, you must but you just block it out..... and how much money those people lost...if you did, I dont see how you could be so non chalant about it.......Your too nice a person and I just dont see how you can knowingly know that people take your advice and lose, yet all you can do is laugh about it. You may not be responsible directly, but you certainly were part of the cause, and I would think showing a little remorse instead of laughing and mockery, would better suit you. Does it make you feel good to know how much money you cost Freeus??? I use her only as an example because I know how much you love her and how much she loves you. But clearly, she followed your every move....quickest way to a million...buy rmbs calls, and she does so immediately....I am sure she will say the same as most everybody else and say she does not blame you, it is not your fault, she made the trades and she takes full responsibility....but c'mon tom, you know damned good and well that anything you said to buy, she ran right out and did it.....do you have any idea how many Freeus's are out there....how many people took your advice??? How much money was lost?? Do you wanna see all the pms from people that tell me how you ruined their lives and etc, etc....people I have never even heard from before....and before any jumps all over me, I will be the first to say that we are all responsible 100% for our own actions...thats why a laughed at that attorney...but that does not remove the fact that many people followed tom, he knows it damned good and well, and he should at least show some compassion instead of joking who he can sue for his bad moves.....that was very disrespectful. You may have thought you were making fun of the people involved in the suit against you, but while you were doing that you were also slapping in the face, all the people that love and respect you and DID follow your advice and got their their ass kicked. I would never ruin a persons confidentiality, but Tom, I have PM's from some of your closest friends telling me how much money they lost following you and they think your angels are off kilter big time and only a fool would still be following your advice. This from people you talk to and are friends and even see on a social basis...... Maybe it's time to wake up and smell the coffee.......something must be amiss....a year or two ago, you had far more friends....now it seems you have far more enemies, and personally, I dont think it's because people are pissed they took your advice and lost money, but moreso because of the attitude you take........You make bad call after bad call after bad call....you blatantly tell people to buy this or buy that or whatever....you admitt and even laugh that so many people follow your every move, yet you can't understand that many of these people took your advice and lost money, and instead of feeling sorry for them, you blow it off with jokes like you could care less....thats fine, you think of freeus....you think of how much money she lost taking your advice....then you think that their are 500 Freeus' out there, all that got their ass kicked listening to you.....and I hope those vitamins and minerals still allow you to sleep knowing how badly you hurt people that love you and care about you...screw all the idiots that bash you...who gives a $hit about them....it's the folks that love you and stick up for you that love you too much to tell you how much you hurt them....they say one thing publicly, and another privately...those are the one's you constantly slap in the face with your mocking attitude.

I have always thought of you as a friend......and for telling your bashers to get lost and go someplace else in ihub gets me banned and deleted, then that is just one more slap in the face to somebody that thought he was your friend.....

Sorry if this post offends anybody, but it needed to be said, and I know many agree.....we won;t hear from them, we will only hear from folks like tim that wish to analyze everything and tell others what they feel and think or other folks that are still blinded by the light of the hiearchy on this thread....I mean, hell, there are so many banned people, I am surprised more then 5 regulars post anymore....and one more thing.........look how many people used to post......at some time dealie and tom, yall need to ask yourself why these people dont post anymore...sometimes I amazed that such smart people can be so blinded and not be able to add 1 + 1 and come up with an answer of 2.

Sorry for the long rant....but I am livid after seeing how I was deleted from IHUB after sticking up for tom, dealie and vendit...only to find I was deleted like the idiot redmond who I constantly told to get lost...........

No doubt this post gets some heated words flowing here on the porch, not to mention the critical workshop...I am sure they will hailing me as their savior again.........
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