Re: 4/1/01 - [BIFT] Reality finally sets in and longs try to make sense of it
By: mccain $$$$
Reply To: None Sunday, 1 Apr 2001 at 8:13 PM EDT
Post # of 291519
I apologize to the board for my fervent support of BIFS and SWOMI.
I have been rediculously ashamed and humiliated by my support......
When I went to Myrtle Beach, Jay LIED to me and others there about the Tech., spec's and capabilities of SWOMI!
He also LIED about the Co's they were negotiating with.
While I admit I then Found it difficult to believe All that Jay Told us,and believe me it was WAY over the TOP! I found it Much More difficult to believe he would risk going to prison by saying such things....
and it was upon that Reasoning that I felt compelled to believe all the BS Mr. Scumbag Jay told us while there.
I Hope Jay goes to Prison for ALL the Lies He spread about SWOMi etc..... and I hope Hal Campbell gets his dues for his involvement.....and anyone else involved!
I am not too proud to admit I was wrong. I was Very Wrong.
and I would have joined the basher ranks had it not been harmful to those I knew who invested in BIFT.
I contacted BIFT about my complaints when I found out the truth about Jay and his Lies to us....
They basically said they're not going to do anything about it.
So what to do? Sue them? Waste more money??????
I am disgusted by Jay Knabb and others involved in the Manipulation here.
I am also disgusted I bought it...... but like I said, I personally would Never risk going to prison and losing everything by telling people lies that I didn't even need to...... so naturally I could not imagine why Jay would.
I sincerely apologize,
and no this is NOT an April fools joke,
mccain
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: stanby3hours $$$
Reply To: None Monday, 2 Apr 2001 at 1:13 AM EDT
Post # of 291580
The intensity McCain was hyping this stock and the lack of rules he worked within , makes his self-revelation susceptible .
And the fact that he believed every word of JKnabb makes him ....well .... I be nice and leave it blank .
I am in and thats stupid , in the same time I only had to read JKnabb post on here to figure that guy out ..... so what level that puts McCain?
When he hyped , he did it ruthlessly .... I think he trades the same way .... you all can figure out the rest .
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long)
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By: Pennystk $$$$
Reply To: 290835 by stanby3hours $$$ Monday, 2 Apr 2001 at 1:24 AM EDT
Post # of 291581
Stanby: McCain did not hype! Mc Cain witnessed a product that we were all invested in and came back and posted with the excitement that he felt at the time. Just because someone believes in their investment does not make them a hypster. What good is it to have an investment that you dont believe in. McCain told us what he saw, and the fact that he put some emotion in it does not make him a hypster. He was posting honestly with the information he had. Information that he was giving us from his first hand knowlege of the product. Just remember it is not SWOMI that has changed it is the presentation that has changed.
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: mccain $$$$
Reply To: 290835 by stanby3hours $$$ Monday, 2 Apr 2001 at 1:26 AM EDT
Post # of 291581
stanby3hours....
Gullible? yes
Stupid? perhaps..but only because I believed a LIE, had what I been told the Truth.... I would have been perhaps More than Stupid to not Bet on what I was told.... mind you by the then CEO of a Company.
naive? perhaps.....
I explained to you what I consider to be fairly sound logic as to why I believed Jay...
It is not even remotely reasonable for Anyone to say what Jay said given the Risk vs Reward ratio...
He had Very little to gain by telling a few shareholders present what He did.... He however had EVERYTHING to LOSE "IF" what he said was fabrication.... as it was....
He has since Lost his job with BIFT and it remains to be seen what other losses he may incur.
I have apologized for my support after being deceived...
Fool me once.. your Fault...
Fool me Twice... my Fault.
You are free to judge me any way you will....
Is this not reasonable?
I have no intentions of crusading here.....
God Bless,
mccain
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: stanby3hours $$$
Reply To: None Monday, 2 Apr 2001 at 1:36 AM EDT
Post # of 291581
Penny , I am not going to argue with you if McCain was hyping or not .
Let me just say that the form he was posting made Attila the Hun look like a sissy.:))
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long)
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: stanby3hours $$$
Reply To: None Monday, 2 Apr 2001 at 2:00 AM EDT
Post # of 291582
The guy I respect is ol'Hog ; he believed (way too much , just like McCain) , he realized that there are no miracles,
and he moved on .
No crying , no revelations , no apologies .
McCain on the other hand fought like a lion and now cries like a little girl ..... he lied to me !.... he lied to me!
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: Pennystk $$$$
Reply To: 290846 by stanby3hours $$$ Monday, 2 Apr 2001 at 2:15 AM EDT
Post # of 291583
Standby:
Sorry to disagree with you but I remember when Hogs opinion changing that he came to the board and expressed his opinion. Just two different guys with their own way of expressing themselves. I dont hear McCain crying, I hear him saying that if his opinion influenced anyone that he is sorry. Plain and simple, no crying, just a honest revelation of the facts. Quite frankly I took that post as he felt hurt and betrayed and I think that is the feeling of most of the investors right now. Some express it others dont. He lied to me and believe me I am not crying about it, I just resent the fact that he used longs to do his dirty work, but we were all willing to share the good news that Jay was giving us. He was the CEO why would we not believe him.
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: stanby3hours $$$
Reply To: 290847 by Pennystk $$$$ Monday, 2 Apr 2001 at 2:37 AM EDT
Post # of 291584
Penny , if you really stop to think about it , even if Jay lied , how much harm this sleight of hand really do ?
Jay took advantage of the hype of McCain's , the old theory of "the only reason it is worth that much is because people think it is".
If you think SWOMI is still great , you have nothing to worry about .
After all , which is worse ....the Metricom model , with a billion debt for a company grossing a few million dollars , or a company with no revenues and an ex ceo who lied ?
Yes I am sarcastic , but we are just talkin and the truth is that it's good to see you here and good to converse with you .
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: helpfuled $$$
Reply To: 290803 by mccain $$$$ Monday, 2 Apr 2001 at 2:38 AM EDT
Post # of 291584
mccain response to post # 290803 - I too was misled and agree with most of your post except one part:
"and I would have joined the basher ranks had it not been harmful to those I knew who invested in BIFT"
Do you really think that posting problems with BIFT harms investors? If so how, by keeping others from poorly investing their funds? I don't think you should ever feel that posting the truth on this or any other discussion site is wrong!
Could I ask you a question? Were J Knabb and H Campbell the only people you feel misrepresented? Were there any others? Orville Baldridge(changed name from original), is he involved? Mr. and Mrs. A Keyser did they to your knowledge do anything wrong?
Thank you for your candor! Don't feel you are hurting longs like myself by telling the truth. If nothing else comes from this maybe more money can be allocated to the Internet Enforcement Division of the SEC. That in my opinion would help!
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: mccain $$$$
Reply To: None Tuesday, 3 Apr 2001 at 11:59 AM EDT
Post # of 104440
Janice, Yard, Salem, scion, virginia, and anyone else I may have missed....
I Apologize to All of you that I attacked in the past......
I do believe you are intelligent enough to know that 99% of it was just silly fun... and I don't really believe you were the least bit concerned by it.... as I place little importance on what I read here as well...... Mostly cheap entertainment......
but, I admit my allegiance was sorely misplaced.....
I respect that many of you show genuine integrity to call sleaze where you see it.... I consider this a lesson learned.....
I also share that spirit and just wanted to say I'm sorry if there was any negative impact on you from my error.
Now, I'm not here to cannonize you LOL....
But, I feel obligated to my Self to say this....
Peace.... and May you All Prosper....
Sincerely,
mccain(The Fool)
ragingbull.lycos.com
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By: janice456 $$$$
Reply To: 104425 by mccain $$$$ Tuesday, 3 Apr 2001 at 12:18 PM EDT
Post # of 104452
lol, thanks mccain; you didn't have to do that, and that you chose to do so was generous of you.
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