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Calling Americans - what do you think of your president?
Started by SRogers at 12:42pm Apr 4, 2001 BST
...and how he's treating the rest of the world. Is he handling the spy plane crisis correctly? Is he goinbg to be a disaster or a genius as president?
You can find more about this at guardian.co.uk
mainer - 05:03pm Apr 8, 2001 BST (#322 of 330)
jaybug, so you think it should be the responsibility of every American to buy filters to get rid of arsenic? You think it would just be too difficult and too expensive for the U.S. to get that poison out of our water system?
News for you, friend. America is way behind the rest of the world on this standard. The Europeans are able to abide by the new standard -- but we poor, incompetent Americans just can't manage it.
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JoannaOregonUS - 05:03pm Apr 8, 2001 BST (#323 of 330)
I found this site a bit ago that is good news. Smirk must also contend with Pubs who very much disagree with his environmental stance:
Assault on Environmental Laws Disturbs Some in GOP by Robert P. Stoll, DDS, a founding member of REP AMERICA from Ponte Vedra Beach, FL, a letter to the editor published in the St. Petersburg Times September 30, 1995
"I am very disappointed in what this session of Congress has done to tear down the major laws providing us with environmental protection. Many of these laws were passed with strong bipartisan support. They set this nation above others in recognizing that nature is neither a limitless larder nor a bottomless sewer, but rather a diversity of systems in balance.
"A recent Harris poll confirmed the widespread public opposition to any weakening of environmental regulations, with a majority of Americans believing that environmental laws and regulations are not strict enough. By almost two to one, people are opposed to proposals to reduce the powers of the Environmental Protection Agency.
"And yet Republican leaders act as if they had some sort of mandate to cut EPA funding by 33 percent, to "reform" the Endangered Species Act, to allow for oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, to eliminate protection for 75 percent of this nation's remaining wetlands, to cut the Clean Water Act and to severely curtail funding for a variety of other environmental protection measures.
"I have been a conservative Republican for over forty years. During that time the term "environmentally concerned Republican" has gone from platform to oxymoron.
"Barry Goldwater, the father of modern conservatism and my idol, is a lifelong environmentalist. Richard Nixon encouraged and signed into law such monumental environmental protection laws as the Clean Air Act and the Endangered Species Act. Now the conservative Republicans in Congress are taking giant strides backward.
"Many of my friends are also conservative Republicans. We share a sadness when we see what this session of Congress has done to environmental protection. Those laws are particularly important here in Florida, where the pressures of a rapidly expanding population threaten to destroy the fragile ecosystems along the waterways where everyone wants to live. If these waters and the flora and fauna are not protected, the damage will be irreparable.
"I recently joined an organization called Republicans for Environmental Protection (PO Box 7073, Deerfield IL 60015). The fact that such an organization has been formed should serve as a wake-up call to conservative Republicans in Washington.
"All is not well out here! The majority of us have repeatedly said we want environmental protection. So far, we have been ignored. But we do vote, and next time it may not be for Republicans."
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donsmom - 05:30pm Apr 8, 2001 BST (#324 of 330)
I find the current coup residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue despicable. That thing should not be there. It is an appointed - not elected - monstrosity.
Oh, and by the way, jaybug, do you per chance, own a company that makes gas masks? Because I am sure that it will be less expensive for corporate america to have each individual supply their own when there is no air to breathe.
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hoib - 06:11pm Apr 8, 2001 BST (#325 of 330)
Jaybug I live in the boonies so I can't get cable TV easily. I spent a winter where it was and watched The History Channel a lot. They really should call it the "Revisionist Channel." If I wwere you I'd check a little further into the McArthur/ Truman clash than HC. As Military Governor of Japan from end of War Two in 1945, to Korean War from June of 1950 McArthur had had ample direct evidence of the after effects of nuclear bombs. He had opposed the development of Atomic Artillery....relatively small nukes able to be used with 155MM canon...adamantly. There simply isn't any credible reason to believe he argued with Truman over use of Nukes.
And as to why the Electoral College...well you're applying a contemporary context to a 200 year old one and it can't fit. I suggest you read The Federalist papers references to EC to get a better picture.
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breakssoftware - 06:24pm Apr 8, 2001 BST (#326 of 330)
Actually, he was selected back in '95 - recall his face on the cover of US NEWS and World Report as the repub of the future. How little did we know that Enron/Dynergy and another had him picked as the next president back then (I posted articles on this a couple months ago).
The election was just supposed to be a mere formality, and got ugly so the supremes had to shutdown the uppity FL supreme court. Talk about primogeniture (sp)! Also recall that an 'ex'-CIA employee was helping fix ballots in Seminole county - thanks, dad! I wonder if dad is doing some more CIA stuff?
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JayHDaniel - 06:49pm Apr 8, 2001 BST (#327 of 330)
A trade delegation did go to Beijing last week & it was directed by Prescott S. Bush, Jr., the Presidents' uncle, who is an Asia specialist.
It didn’t take long for American business to suffer some collateral damage from the spy-plane standoff. It came last Tuesday when Prescott Bush, uncle of the president, arrived at the elegant Fangshan restaurant in Beijing for a banquet hosted by China’s vice minister of civil affairs. Bush, chairman of the U.S.-China Chamber of Commerce, had just arrived in the country as part of an American business delegation accompanying United Airlines’ inaugural flight from Chicago to Beijing. But instead of a lavish celebration, Bush and his dignitaries were snubbed:
msnbc.com
So, as Americans, are we against China on this? When the President's uncle is making formal visits there while 22 sailors, a marine & an airman are being held?
Yes we are, but America is bought & paid for by Dub's buisness interests & friends.
So we'll have to wait a couple to correct the oversite. I'll offer our most sincere appologies for offering this curse to the rest of the World.
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pdxor - 08:18pm Apr 8, 2001 BST (#328 of 330)
Hoib
I am almost finished with the truman biography that won the pulitzer in '91 I believe. According to that book , in a nutshell that is. Macarthur had told Truman at their Pacific meeting that the war would be over by Dec '51. Truman was very happy with this and the inchon victory . but within a few days the koreans had made a counter offensive and due in part to macs' strategy of only having the forces go up the eeast and west side of the peninsula the chicom and north koreans were very entrenched. They wanted to take out the damn on the yalu but conventional bombs would not work, according to doolittle who personally went on a bombing mission over the yalu. Mac wanted to finish the chinese off with 30 to 50 assorted hiroshima sized bombs.
But truman didn't want this and after ridgway got second in command in korea and made progress, the joint cheifs and truman and many in congress wanted mac gone.
Maybe it is revisionism but that is what the book said.
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des826 - 09:01pm Apr 8, 2001 BST (#329 of 330)
malky4ever wrote:
<<Last weekend's California Democratic state convention in Anaheim was dominated by fears that when the crisis hits home, the party's dominance of the Capitol will backfire.>>
Just where'd you hear that from? I was there and that was a small part of a very positive weekend. It's understandable that newspapers would try to give the impression that the Dems are weakening in Callie, but that's just wishful thinking from Republicans that see the right wing oppression going on in every other state and they can't get in on it cause Callie is overwhelmingly Democratic and snubbed Bush. He HAD to steal Florida because he damn sure didn't have US.
<<"Just remember Jimmy Carter," state Controller Kathleen Connell warned fellow Democrats, adding that they will have "no excuses" for perceived failure to deal with the crisis forthrightly.>>
You'd do well to remind your fellow Republicans of that same thing concerning Bush's handling of the hostage situation in China,(which is a perfect example of what go around comes around, since it was Daddy Bush that promised arms to Iran if they would hold on to the hostages until AFTER the presidential election, in effect pushing Carter out of office) the same thing could be said of him. I'm damn sure going to be watching closely to see what Bush gives in return for the hostages.
<<"We will be accountable on Election Day 2002," she said. How right she is.>>
If you are implying that she will be knocked out by a Republican, dream on buddy. That might fly in Orange County, but if a democratic candidate will suffer it will only be by the hands of another democratic candidate. Period.
<<The left in California have won with "feel-good" emotional politics while omitting reality.>>
Bullshit. The "left" or democrats have won in Callie because we are a progressive and openminded state and despise the narrowminded pompusness that usually occupies the Republican mindset. WE were working on our schools WAY before Bush's "leave no child behind" lie and while the test scores in other states went down, OUR'S went up. Even Bush's "faith-based program" idea was already being implemented here way before the bastard even started campaigning. We are diverse and our problems are complicated. Just "Feel Good" is NOT good enough for anyone to vote for.
Now, they face the "feel-bad" emotional politics in the form of voter anger for failing to deal with that omitted reality.
What voter anger? Voters are more angry that that bastard cheated his way into the White House and that he is using our difficulties as an excuse to rape the environment when one has NOTHING to do with the other. That hatred is starting to extend to ALL Republicans, that's why the GOP is trying hard to get Arnold to run, cause he can be another Reagan. Looks like a Liberal(he's a movie actor, right?)but is Republican through and through. They know better than to try to run any other Republican after the way Bush is making sure you equate the phrase "Republican" with "Right wing extremist"
<<Next year will be interesting in California.>>
Every year in California is interesting.
<<Environmentalism has a new meaning when the electricity goes out.>>
Environnmentalism STILL means the same thing, Californians still care about the environment. I'd rather pay higher prices (and I am) than to sell out to that bastard and in this I am not alone. Des |
