Cosmic wrote this:
I would think that education leads to agnosticism and not atheism. I don't think any other position is all that defensible in terms of pure logic.
I'd have answered that, Okay, I'm holding a nation in my hand, and in terms of pure logic, cosmic should be "agnostic" and not "atheist" about that statement. If we agree that NOTHING anybody asserts with certitude can be received atheistically, so to speak, but only agnostically, then the assertion there is a conscious God-figure is "logically" included.
You wrote:
Atheist is not a label I choose for myself. To me it has too much of an in-your-face connotation.
I agree that it's in-your-face; but I didn't choose it either, I was raised an atheist; and when, as a child growing up in the south, one suffered at the hands of sanctimonious bullies whose loving Christian God evidently recommended the tormenting of atheist and Jewish children (and a few of their parents were none too sensitive, either), one doesn't care if it's in-your-face. I, the atheist, behaved well toward them. They, the Christians, behaved hatefully toward me, my sister, and little "Joey the Jew." I'm not hitting anyone. I'm just saying to those who would make RU486 illegal and who defend the Global Gag Rule, get off our backs with your religion and any of its wildly, abusively intrusive, irrational, inhumane, and specifically religious rules; this is as much our country as it is yours.
And you wrote:
I don't assert that there is no god so by your definition I'm not an atheist.
So, Karen, care to assert anything about the nation in my hand, lol? |