WITHOUT PREJUDICE
I think its possible that the people who made up the link are lying. Its also possible that their sources are lying to them or that some of the accusations are just uncertain rumors. I have not read all the links from that page so there could be some evidence that I missed
And Christopher H. assisted you with: "Boys Town for years kept collecting money actively even though they didn't need it at all...It isn't unique in the NP world at all."
Congratulations to both yourself and to Christopher Hodgkins! It does appear as if the two of you have finally found a sensible explanation to clear up these evil allegations.
Christopher applied the analogy of "Boys Town" to our discussion about the "missing money" of the Mother's Org. This was a wonderfully intuitive response for it shines a bright light on the question of why the money wasn't used to help the suffering in Ethiopia, India, or elsewhere. NO doubt--it simply was not needed.
When you really think about it, all of this makes perfect sense. The famine in Ethiopia WAS mostly overblown hyperbole--self-serving propaganda. And there hasn't truly been pestilence and disease in India for about 50 years--from about the start of the dear Mother's ministry.
Granted, there are probably small outbreaks of poverty in some of the larger centers from time to time; but this only serves to remind us of God's love.
Where there are suffering people, there is Jesus. Jesus kisses people when they share in His suffering. Pure suffering is a place where the wilfulness of the Prince of Darkness is broken and shattered by the all powerful hand of God. Suffering is the place where people can be convinced to accept Jesus--and to walk across the waters to his open arms. Medicine would only interfere with this glorious wedding feast. Money is not needed for this--only a heart overflowing with compassion--and devoted to the love of Christ.
So many people harp on and on about need, need, and need. They mouth these platitudes about the poor, and the sick, and the dying--ad nauseum. We should spend money on THAT...when woman are killing their unborn embryos??
Christopher is absolutely correct, I think, in the ideas which his remarks suggest to my mind. He may not have meant this, but in the case that his remark had the meaning it appeared to have--I would certainly not steal from him the credit. He has demonstrated a sense of fair-mindedness and an uncommon level of intelligence that one seldom comes across in this godless world. I thank Christopher for helping make sensible what (to me) had become a distressing and conflicting issue.
To you too, Timfowler, I also owe a debt of thanks. Firstly, for an absolute lack of subterfuge and the relentless courage to chase down the truth-while studiously avoiding obstructionism, evasiveness, or misdirection.
Your suggestion that they were lying had the immediate ring of truth to it. Once I had thought about it, I realized you had to be right, and that you had been saving that simple and obvious point until the time when I should be ready to receive it. There simply was no other way to explain it.
Certainly, one finds it distressing that pious nuns devoted to Christ would lie about the handmaiden of God, but it shows you that Satan never sleeps, but must always attack those striving for God. After all, why SHOULD they tell the truth?? Exactly. So they had to be lying; you recognized it right away.
That author, Mr. Chatterjee, is another story entirely. Not for him to sell his lies like a vicious nun. No. For him it is the serpent's tongue of the Prince of Evil himself. Notice how he attempts to disarm the reader by claiming that having lived in Calcutta for many years he merely wishes to expose a lie that has grown into mythological proportion in Western society. One sees the work of Satan in his criticism of Hitchin as being exaggerating in his criticism of the Mother. The message is clear: believe me. I'm impartial. I have no axe to grind--blah, blah, blah. Yeah right. You saw that he was lying immediately. Why should he tell the truth?
Once one knows these people are all lying (and thank you again for pointing out that this was the conclusion that made sense), it becomes the play of a child to pick their innumerable lies out of their books and essays, and submissions before the Vatican.
Thank you again for pointing out to me, that which in hindsight is so transparently obvious, but which I, in the depth of my confusion, was unable to see--that all people with anything negative to say about the Mother were going beyond the boundaries of fair play, and were lying like sons of bitches. The reason why no motive has been discovered for these lies is simply because the motive is carried by the DARK Prince--to destroy the character of She who was perfect in Christ.
Thank you both once again (as I said, I cannot thank you enough. I feel like a blind man seeing the stars for the very first time). Let us praise her. Even though she left Calcutta for the four months where disease struck--she was EVERYWHERE where she was NEEDED--converting souls to Jesus as they died, and helping to bring about new pregnancies so that the lack of food and the prevalence of disease and suffering in the regions of the "poorest of the poor" would be the impetus to create the suffering that was necessary to destroy the wilfulness that prevents most of us from getting kissed by Jesus--and to ensure that the will of God should be manifested once again. As the only need in this life is to suffer and to let Jesus kiss you across--well, how much money does it take to meet those needs?? Not a lot.
Truthfully, one can only regret that more of the poor, the sick, and the afflicted did not die in order to make room for the unborn, so that there would be a greater need for the money in terms of plane fare, renewal of vows, and those important matters of appearance. Nevertheless, it is a wonderful feeling to know that all this money is waiting to be used for the time when the unborn will need it.
However, for now, it does not appear there is any real need in terms of the poor and suffering of the world. They are being helped across to the other side very well without it.
Well, I feel like the scales have dropped from my eyes: and I have you and Christopher to thank for it again. I cannot thank the two of you enough. Christopher for his penetrating insight that I took from his quoted comment above, that the money might be sitting in the banks until a future time when it was needed to fulfil the mandate of the SOC in ministering to the "poorest of the poor". Possibly in 50 years or so, we may find that suffering will surface in the world once again. This would be wonderful!
I believe it was Arthur (Tennyson) who said: He also serves who only stands and waits. Praise God!
Also, thanks to Christopher for his uncommon intelligence and unique sense of love and compassion. Christopher, you were able to see immediately (as Twofowler did) that the evidence of the staff, the nuns, the authors, Stern Magazine, and others--was unreliable evidence, even unseen--by virtue of the fact that it was alleged to suggest there was another side to the story of Mother Teresa. Therefore, it could only be explained as lies, and as the farsighted providence of the fabled grasshopper (or was it an ant?).
Again, I must thank you, Twofowler, for your lack of prejudice and bias, for keeping your motives entirely transparent, for always discussing issues in the most perfect good faith, and without drawing premature conclusions and attempting to cause the facts to be twisted in their interpretation, in order that they might fit those conclusions. Thank you for not doing this.
You taught me to look at the evidence from all sides except when it was on the side of lies. Hopefully, I will be able to learn the full meaning of objectivity from you. Again, your answers were never glib or obstructive, or less than forthcoming. It was always clear that you were searching diligently for the balance of truth by weighing the evidence from all sides and submitting it to ruthless reason; and it was always perfectly clear that your dialogue was in good faith and not contrived to simply bolster conclusions you had already drawn because of a faith which you were secretly defending.
For your clarity and your objectivity, I thank you. Again for pointing out the likelihood that everyone detracting from the Mother was simply lying, I thank you. This logic is so obvious on hindsight, I cannot believe that I was blind to it. Why would one need to prove that someone is lying when they can simply know it by the fact that it interferes with what they wish to believe? Thank you.
I know there is no good excuse for my slowness in picking up on these matters, but I would like to try to explain how I got side-tracked.
You see, when I grew up we had no running water or electricity. We were very poor and we used a wood stove for everything. I guess I was what could be called a rube. What would I recognize in the world, if it didn't have four legs, teats, and a tail--or if wasn't tied with binder twine?
Well, later on people tried to teach me how to think. You know those numbered things that people put at the end of book chapters and essays and such? I forget their name, but I lern't it once. I think it indexed contents or something. Anyway, I was told to pay attention to these numbered things, because people willing to document their research ideas were at least serving notice that they were willing to have their ideas and work to be evaluated so that the reader could attach an informed judgement as to its accuracy, truth, and so forth. I guess this is where I got side-tracked when I was reading the four chapters of Aroup Chatterjee's book on the Internet site, and saw those numbered things.
You see, nobody here speaking for the Mother had offered any support for their bold and loud statements of belief. They provided no essays, no books, no articles--nothing--and none of those numbered things. So I got side-tracked into thinking that there might be more than one side to the story of the Mother's life. Can you imagine! How stupid I feel!
I began to be impressed with the seeming objectivity of the nuns and the authors. I became impressed with the years of service within the organization, the first hand knowledge, and most strikingly--the lack of any apparent maliciousness or suspicion of motive--and no claims of such by the powerful apologists (in particular the next to wealthiest real estate company in the world--the Catholic Church).
Why were they silent? None of it made sense to me, until Christopher's comment suggested to me that the money might be stored away until some day when it may be needed, and until you pointed out that the existence of a contrary viewpoint was fairly substantial evidence that everyone else was lying.
As you can see, I have now become a fervent supporter of the Mother and I have thrown my voice against all the liars that make claims that she was less than God. They are all liars. She was perfect in Christ.
A friend of mine (probably not any more since my change of heart) said to me: Come on, Solon, you know damn well that the behaviour you have described for her, if it was being exhibited by someone without a religious affiliation or excuse, would be considered mentally unbalanced, cruel, antisocial. She allowed people to suffer when she had both the means and the mandate to prevent it. She provided unsanitary conditions that served to create pestilence and disease which she would have been sued for in a normal environment. She made speeches and quoted numbers which were bizarre and unrelated to the facts. She believed she was a special agent of God, and she expected everyone to pay for her food, etc. And for any donations to be given to the Church and put in the bank as a sign of her special favour from God. She exalted suffering (other people's) as being closeness to God. She made a mockery of the caring and compassion of all those who donated with the hope that it would be spent to alleviate the suffering of the living--rather than being sent to the Vatican where she was a frequent visitor.
Her only concern was for heaven and spirit people--not for earth people--and, of course, the unborn--as they were yet spirit people. She refused to spend the money to relieve suffering. She refused to let any funds go to Ethiopia to relieve the suffering--the suffering which donors had written huge cheques with the hope of relieving--hard earned money from truly compassionate and empathic people.
How can you possibly support her, Solon--and still look at yourself in the mirror each morning and call yourself a human being?
"Go F--- yourself I told him. You are a liar, and in case you don't have a clue, the money is being stored in safekeeping until it is needed. There probably isn't even such a place as Ethiopia. Take your ugly lies elsewhere." I hope my friend got the message.
In chapter ten, Mr. Aroup Chatterjee continues to be a liar, and to make up stories about the good Mother, setting out facts and dates, and places in his phoney way--in order to pretend that these things are important. Lies and lies. It makes me sick.
Even Mr. Aroup Chatterjee, however, is forced to tell snippets of truth in order that his master, The Prince of Darkness, can lead fools to the everlasting fire. Lest these rare moments of praise be lost amongst the unending lies, I will copy it here as praise to the Mother so that people may understand that where there was a need she was there to counsel--even though she had no money to put to the cause.
"It was astonishing that the world media reported with great deference Mother Teresa's call to the thousands of women in Bangladesh who had become pregnant after being raped by Pakistani soldiers during the country's independence war in 1971, to go on and have the babies. The sole voice critical of her was that of Germaine Greer, who was dismissed as a "loony feminist" by journalists. The barbaric torture unleashed on these captive women was described by Joyce Goldman writing for the American magazine Ms.6 Goldman wrote about the women being held in barracks and used as "cigarette machines" by soldiers, and one of the latter was quoted as saying, "We used the girls until they died." She described the case of an eight year old girl who was found to be too small for the soldiers' needs and was slit to accommodate them and then raped until she died.
It is interesting that Mother Teresa did not utter a word of condemnation about the soldiers' actions or even a word of sympathy for the women. Her entire obsession was that the raped women if pregnant must not have abortions. She could have extended assistance toward all the tortured and abused women, but instead she chose to offer help -- and that too only until childbirth -- to only those raped women who would have their babies. What is not generally known is how much heed was paid to Mother's frantic calls -- fewer than fifty women actually had the babies, that too for various reasons unconnected with Mother's plea."
Even though the Mother apparently had no influence here, she did do her best to try to make the raped and tortured woman have the babies of these soldiers. The fact that she did not succeed is not to be taken as a criticism of her love and devotion.
Here are some of the LIARS whom should not be read, and whose books and articles should be burned and banned:
website.lineone.net
secularhumanism.org
members.tripod.co.uk |
