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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

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To: ZenWarrior who wrote (149568)5/30/2001 10:53:46 AM
From: Don Pueblo  Read Replies (1) of 769670
 
Interesting point. The way I read your post, the people who are "free" to succeed are responsible not only for themselves, but for the people who do not succeed. Therefore (and correct me if I am wrong) people who are "free" to fail are not responsible for their failure.

It's nice that you're going to give 5 million dollars of your own money to people you don't know. I have a feeling that you might possibly change your mind on that point once you had actually earned the 5 million...but I won't argue it with you.

Your argument seems to be that if I "win" at the game, I have done so at the expense of someone else who has to "lose" so I can "win", and that therefore by "winning", I have some debt or obligation to the "loser" because I would not have won had he not lost.

Sorry. It won't wash. There are people like that, I agree. But I'm not one of them.

With all due respect, and I know you are an intelligent person, would it not be wiser to start out with the assumption that all people are created equal, and that all of them can win if they have the opportunity?

You're assuming that under certain circumstances, an individual (by whatever definition you choose to give) cannot possibly succeed. That necessitates the assumption that there are barriers that said individual cannot possibly overcome. I don't buy that. That is what I call "oppression".

I don't disagree that some people will "fail". You and I have a distinct difference on why they fail, and what should be done to avoid their continuing "failure" in the future. You believe that if I am a "loser" that there is so little hope for me that I will cease to exist if somebody doesn't don't hold me up until I die. I believe that if I am a "loser" (and I have been one, be assured of that) that the only person that is going to get me out of the hole I dug for myself is me.

If I manage to do it, then I'm a "winner". Although I should be free to help anyone I choose to help, I don't exactly see how that obligates me to give half of my money to someone who isn't interested in doing what I did.

That seems more to me like I am rewarding someone for failing.

Sorry. I don't buy it. I worked for the dough. I'm going to do what I choose with it.
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