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To: chalu2 who wrote (1759)6/12/2001 4:23:44 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Read Replies (6) of 23908
 
Re: On a similar point, the policies of Israel favoring Jews are not "racist" as Judaism is not a race. Anyone who plays the racism card is either a) a Palestinian propagandist and/or b) a person who has never been to the middle east...

Or c) someone who knows a bit more about your own shibboleth.... Judaism is at best a racialized religion. Indeed, one doesn't convert to Judaism as s/he would do to Christianity, Buddhism, or Islam. I mean, if your mother is NOT Jewish, how many rabbis out there will accept you as a Jew? Contrariwise, if someone wants to become Christian or Muslim for instance, all s/he has to do is to rendezvous a priest or an Islam doctor and convert, and that's it! Nobody, no priest and no imam will further question his/her conversion --at least not on a "genetic basis". Anyway, here's the "Idiot's guide to Judaism":

Who is a Jew?

In an effort to further divide and confuse the Jewish People, the Israeli establishment together with the reform and conservative organizations, have come up with the issue better known as: "Who is a Jew?"

First of all, the issue should be called "Who is a Convert?" because that's the only issue there is. Everyone agrees that someone born to a Jewish mother, is a Jew. But, just like the reform don't recognize the conversions of the reconstructionists, and just like the conservative don't recognize the conversions of the reform, the orthodox don't recognize the conversions not performed in accordance to Jewish Laws as expressed in the Torah.

And regardless of any amount of legislation passed by the members of the Israeli parliament, the Knesset, and despite all the propaganda issued by the reform and conservative, the fact remains: "The only converts into Judaism are those who convert in accordance to Jewish Law." Otherwise, they may be reform or conservative, but they certainly are not Jewish, and the majority of the Jews in the world will never consider them Jewish. Anybody who truly wants to become Jewish, must convert in accordance to Jewish Law, in accordance to Halacha, by a recognized "Orthodox" Rabbi.

Are you Jewish?

According to Jewish Law, any Jew born from a Jewish mother is Jewish, even if he (or she) has affiliated with the reform and conservative movements. Orthodox Jews understand very well that because of many reasons, Jews have assimilated and joined conservative, reform and other religious movements including secularism, atheism, communism and socialism.

Ahavat Israel personally invites all such assimilated Jews, with all our heart, to come back into the Jewish mainstream. Come back home to your People, come back home to your Torah, and come back home to your Land, the Land of Israel.

Excerpted from:
ahavat-israel.com

Now, I've kept the best till last... Chalu2 claims that to be a Jew is a religious matter only? Fine, but then how come a CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP dares boast he still feels JEWISH??

SIMPLY LUSTIGER

by Malte Rauch


A: "How can you be a Jew of the Cathloic faith?"
B: "And you? How can a Jew live in Germany?"
Meet the Lustiger's: Arno, founding member of Frankfurt's post-war Jewish Community, and his first cousin Jean-Marie, Archbishop of Paris.


Although by birth his name was Aron, and although his mother was murdered in Auschwitz - Jean-Marie Lustiger is as French as they come. Until the savage 1980 bombing of a Paris synagogue. It was then that Cardinal Lustiger, Archbishop of Paris, declared: "I am a Jew. And I will always be a Jew - however much displeasure this fact may cause you!"
As for his chances for becoming the next Pope: "to me, the idea is simply meschugge."

Arno Lustiger, who lives in Frankfurt Germany, proudly points at the Hebrew letters embroidered in gold on a red flag carried by the Jewish Batallion during the Spanish Civil War. Author of numerous articles and publications about Jewish Resistance, Arno and his catholic cousin journey to Poland to confront the silent legacy of Auschwitz --just a highway exit between Cracow and Bedzin. Here, in Bedzin, on this empty patch of ground, where the town's largest synagogue of once stood; where SS-Storm Troopers herded Bedzin's Jews behind closed doors to burn them to the ground. Once and for all. Where no Jew remains in a town that was once almost exclusively Jewish. Where Jean-Marie Lustiger, the Catholic Archishop of Paris is about to become an honorary citizen, and together with his cousin, has come to erect a monument for the dead. And to honor the plaque that now marks the birth place of their grandfather's home, the president of the Jewish bakery guild.
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agdok.de

We all knew about dual loyalty already... But now comes "dual persuasion"?! Go figure....
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