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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank

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To: Chris land who wrote (16761)6/14/2001 10:06:21 PM
From: Solon  Read Replies (1) of 82486
 
Do you know how STUPID that just sounded? ...I never defended Hitler, I just defended his right to arm the NAZI party in order for them to carry out his orders.

You are so right. Why did you say it?

Get a grip, Chris. Having a right to your body does not entail the right to compel others to laud your choices, either on a cate blanche, or an an individual basis.

Now, I have spilled lots of ink in setting out my belief in the property rights to ones own body--the right to exist if you will. I am not going to cover all that ground again. If you believe that a woman does not have the right to exist (i.e. the right to her body), then it is fruitless for us to discuss the matter. Your time is better spent determining by votes or by guns (they achieve the same results), just who does have authority and rights to her body--and to what uses it may be put.

On the unlikely chance that you agree with me that her body is hers, then the question arises as to whether everything from the tip of her nose to her ideas to her islets of langerhans actually ARE her body and not someone elses. I believe the fact is self revealing, although some hold a contrary opinion.

Certainly, we know that parts of what we consider her body can be removed, and can live elsewhere. I have even read articles claiming that the heart, liver, etc. have a type of consciousness which remains with them in the new host. Does this mean they can be forcibly removed, or kept alive at the expense of the subject? I don't think so. But society clearly needs some fundamental axioms to stake the future of individuals on if the existence of individuals by right is to remain beyound the vagaries of the collective vote.
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