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To: Solon who wrote (17078)	6/18/2001 8:00:52 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) of 82486

No. It is not like saying anything else about anything. What is known is that the combination of legal abortion AND contraception dramatically reduces abortions. This is not exactly known because your geussing about what people would have done had circumstances been different and that can never be known for sure. You can't run controled expirements in this. But assuming for the sake of argument that combining both of these things reduces abortions then it is the contraception that reduces abortion not abortion being illegal. The analogy I provided before was a very good one. Both have 2 factors and one result with one factor having a strong influence in achieveing that result and the other making no contribution towards the result in fact its likely that it has some level of influence against it. It is also known that countries with legalized abortions have a far lower incidence of abortions than those where the abortions are done illegaly. Even if this is true (and I doubt it is) corelation does not equal causation. There are also many countries where abortion is legal and the abortion rate is high. You compare Romania, a dictatorship where the economy and the social system was falling apart to the Netherlands a much richer country with a well developed social infrastructure. You miss the point between legal authority to punish and the authority to proselytize the punishment of God. No I do not miss the point. My point is that the Church can not disallow contraception because it lakes the legal authority and the physical means to punish or deter with threats or stop people with force. As for punishment from God it either is not true (either God does not exist, or he does but does not punish using contraception), or it is God not allowing contraception and the church just revealing this. I do not claim the church can not effect what happens, it can argue and influence and lobby, but it can not disallow anything. The simple truth of the matter is that in Roman Catholic Latin America, abortion is illegal, but is being performed at one of the highest levels in the world. If true then it is a perfect example of my point that the church can not punish or preven abortions or contraceptive use. Catholics all over the world ignore the church on contraception (and less frequently but still quite often abortion), and of course it has very little influence over non-catholics on these issues. tim

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