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Technology Stocks : Interdigital Communication(IDCC)
IDCC 369.41-3.0%Nov 7 9:30 AM EST

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To: Bux who wrote (4704)7/6/2001 10:16:54 PM
From: postyle  Read Replies (1) of 5195
 
Bux,

Who was the first person to claim Qualcomm's patents only applied to 2G when, in fact, there has never been any evidence that this was the case?

I don't think anyone ever made such a broad, grandiose claim as you have described. I believe there was a theory, or multiple theories actually, that a version of 3G was being developed -- which was aimed at not including QCOM, or their IPR for that matter.

This made some sense back in the late 90's when QCOM was playing hardball with ERICY, and their was much confusion going on with the standards setting processes.

As for who initiated this theory, I do not recall. I do have on file an America's Network article from Feb. 1997 that highlighted IDCC's B-CDMA where the company themselves made broad claims. Here is an excerpt from that article:

To deliver TruePCS wireless service, InterDigital engineers have achieved milestones in RE signalling technology. 'There are many differences between Qualcomm's narrowband CDMA and our B-CDMA. We have developed an effective, highly stable power control scheme - critical in any CDMA system - that is distinct from Qualcomm's,' Doyle says. 'We have circumvented many of the difficulties associated with low-rate voice coding and the need for soft hand-offs.' InterDigital employs selected standard techniques for voice coding, allowing toll-quality speech transmission. But Doyle says the company does not rely on simultaneous connectivity between a subscriber terminal and multiple base stations for diversity protection. 'Diversity is needed primarily to mitigate the effects of radio signal fading that impairs transmission for narrowband signals. Because of its broadband nature, B-CDMA technology signals do not fade.'

So you can see from this, and later comments, that IDCC was developing a wideband system, although not mobile, that was based primarily on their own IPR.

It is easy to connect the dots and see how someone, or multiple persons, could run with this. Especially in light of the various RTT wideband CDMA proposals being submitted to the ITU, and the general uncertainty about which technologies were going to be incorporated into the 3G standard.

To the best of my recollection, it was Corpgold who first claimed Q's patents were mostly limited to 2G.

I do not recall him ever making such claims. He did say that IDCC's patent license with QCOM extends only through 2G, but that is much different. And despite the existing 1X networks in Korea, there is really no evidence that he was wrong about that.

the agreement does not provide for Qualcomm's transfer of InterDigital's patented technology in third generation use...

This is obviously said in context of IDCC's 1994 licensing pact with QCOM. It does not state that QCOM's IPR is not valid for 3G, but rather that IDCC's IPR is not covered in that agreement for use in 3G.

I really wish you would have kept the discussion limited to QCOM and IDCC -- rather than persecution of someone who you have been bucking horns with for the last two years. If you can find an old post where Darrell claimed QCOM's IPR will not be valuable in 3G, than you would have a leg to stand on. But since you haven't, I can only assume you are making unsubstantiated claims against an individual whom you despise.

postyle

p.s. I really do not care where he works or for whom he works.
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