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To: tejek who wrote (137971)	7/9/2001 12:06:38 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) of 1584202

Tim, these people had no choice..they had to work. Those jobs were the only ones available...noxious fumes and all. A lot of people left farm jobs and unskilled labor jobs to go to these industrial jobs. They might have moved from barely staying alive to just living in horrible conditions. For much of human history life often was a struggle for survival for most people. Industrial development helped make this less so. Yes it was a rocky path that caused a lot of bad things to happen along with the good but I don't think it would have been realitic to think that you could have eliminated most of the bad things without reduceing the good. In theory there are a lot of modern ideas that could have beneficially been implmented back then. In practice there are some good reasons why these ideas were not implimented that early, and even ideas that would have been good then take time to develop and can't just be pushed in to place overnight. If all of the "robber barrons" had died as infants, other people would have taken there place and been at least as bad if perhaps not as good at actually developing the country. Greater societal concern and wealth are very recent. What made the difference at the turn of the century were the new regs put into place. Greater conern for the workers and the environment and greater wealth happened over time. The new regs put in place at the turn of the century where put in place in response to abuses that happened. If you had tried to eliminate all posible abuse by creating regulations before the problems developed you would have had a mess. It would have placed a severe burden on the companies, and probably wouldn't even address what would turn out to be the real issues correctly. "The more difficult it is to build up to the code, the more incentive there is to try to get around it." Its not more difficult...it costs more and some builders don't want to pay for it. The cost can be a lot more in some cases. The homeless problem increased when building codes became stricter, and reformers tried to clean up "blighted" neighborhoods. The people that could only afford very bad places to live could now afford nothing. I'm not saying we shouldn't have building codes, but in some cases things are a lot more difficult and expensive with them. Overall the burden of these regulations is worth it to get the benefits (like severe earthquakes killing 100 instead of 100,000), I am instead just disagreeing with your comment about it not being much more difficult. And IMO "more expensive" amount to more difficult unless the cost increase is very minor. That may be true in some cases but sometimes its just that the need for those regs. is not always obvious. The regulations deal with a lot more then strength of building materials or other factors to make a building structurally sound. IMO many building and zoning regs either have no good purpose or have a purpose that is not critical. They are not all reasonable safety regs. I don't disagree that some laws are unnecessary; however, I think they are limited to maybe less than 5% of all laws. Are you talking about all laws or or safety regulations or building codes? If you are talking about all laws I would say it is far above 5%. If you are talking about building codes, I would say it may be a bit above 5% that have no benefit, and an even higher % that may have some benefit in some situations but are not necessary for safety. Tim

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