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Politics : Impeach George W. Bush

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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (5255)	7/19/2001 2:41:08 PM
From: jttmab	Read Replies (1) of 93284

You dudes are like shifting sands and rarely seem to remember the previous posts. As long as Putin chooses to ignore our hidden agenda, it's just fine with us. It's apparently so hidden your the only one that knows it. Assuming you're silly statement means that our agenda is to develop a system to counter a major nuclear attack. What makes you think the Russians or Chinese are ignoring it. Putin said there isn't a pact between China and Russia? What? Are you using Bush's assessment of looking into Putin's soul and finding him to be trustworthy. Putin trusts Bush as much as Bush trusts Putin. The absolute earliest a minimal system can be deployed is 2005. I suppose you think that the Russians and Chinese won't be paying any attention for the next 20 years. The whole history of military weaponary is to develop new weapons that counter new defenses. Is it the vision of the 21st century that stragey ends. Build me a system that counters ballistic missiles and I'll build more cruise missiles. Build something that will shoot cruise missiles and I'll build something .... Notice also that the defensive system that you build has absolutely nothing to do with the nuclear weapon itself. It defends against the delivery system. There is nothing inherent in the defensive system that would result in any interest in abandoning nuclear weapons. Where do you think it will be in 20 years? More than likely in the same state Safeguard is after 30 years. Is it a rogue nation threat or a system that evolves to counter a large arsenal? Does it make nuclear weapons obsolete or is it destabilizing? Yes. Yes. Yes. No. The first two questions and answers are somewhat arbitrary, i.e., personal preference. But in either case I've argued that BMD cannot be effective. The answer that it makes nuclear weapons is totally baseless and with out any support. And I have yet to see a discussing at all why it wouldn't be destabilizing and there are several reasonable arguments why it would be destabilizing; which in all cases you have failed to counter. You just repeat the claim. Nuts. Any nation providing sanctuary to Ben Laden or anyone else who carried out such an attack had best be prepared to meet Allah. And he is going to need some real estate on which to prepare for his attack. Drifting mushroom clouds? That's the cost of doing business if you shelter terrorists. It didn't deter the US at Hiroshima and it won't if NYC or LA is destroyed. Hiroshima was a little tactical weapon in todays standards of the arsenal. You also ingnore the spreading of radiation over countries that didn't have any thing to do with sheltering terrorists or rogue nations. A major nuclear attack on N. Korea will drift effects, both electromagnetic and radiation, over Japan and China. You ignored the point before and you ignore it again here. a pre-emptive non-nuclear attack Aren't we talking about a situation where they successfully carried out an attack? A pre-emptive attack is not addressing the attack that has occurred it is addressing the strategy of preventing the attack in the first place. Which is has a higher probability of success and is lower cost. In your examples of pre-emptive attacks, I see nothing that was pre-emptive about any of them. What? Hitler invaded Poland to pre-empt the Polish attack on Germany? jttmab

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