Fine. It took awile to find these posts. SI's search engine isn't very good. I was starting to think that this specific area of discussion was a waste of time, likely to produce little light but a lot of heat, and not central to the overall topic or any of its main sub areas but you insisted.
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Message 15984097
Your claim that legalizing abortions harms embryos is an odd one, and I am unsure why a non religious person
would throw it in. It as if you think a smudge of cells is equal in value to somebodies mother. I don't get where you
come from. It seems a very cold and calloused attitude. I believe you said that you don't believe in a soul entering
the yolk, and that you don't believe that humans have any divine value over and above other life forms, and yet you
still act as if every unwanted smudge of sperm should be forced into existence even if it means destroying the lives
and the happiness of real living persons with families and loved ones.
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Message 16025127
Well, that is the POINT, twfowler :)...MANY PEOPLE are sometimes these things !;)---but embryoys are
NEVER these things! They are never hobos! Because embryos are not "most people", are they?? They are not
ANY "PEOPLE". Maybe you get my point, now!! Maybe you don't.
"They are sons or daughters"
Begging the question again. Maybe you should invest in a dictionary. If you make up definitions, we will not get
anywhere. Don't you know that??
The two entities have two different bodies, and abortion destroys one of them (and in some cases both).
That is incorrect.
As far as "who says so", well if we are talking about my own opinion of it I say so
What kind of a justification is that?? Is your "say so" the "TRUTH"???
"if the organism entirely relies on outside support...and has no brain function, and has no chance to ever
develop brain function, then even if the organism is still a human life and a member of the species
homo-sapiens its right to life may not be very meaningful."
What is this supposed to mean?? Are you God?? How do YOU know what has a chance to develop "brain
function"??? What the F--- do you have to do with determining this for millions of women??? Who are YOU to
determine what is "meaningful"...especially for somebody else?? And why is "brain function" the determinant of
life--for you?? (MASTER??). You may have forgotten it...but your sperm don't thunk.
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Here you don't directly call anything a smuge or blob of sperm but you comment on your use of the term, and show that you used it delibertatly and in the context of disussing the thing that is aborted, which is either a fetus or an embryo.
Before I do so, however--a brief comment on your question about the smudge of sperm. I use such terms in order to prevent the argument from picking up sentimental and illogical hitchhikers along the way, such as the shape of the embryo, fetus, etc. The world is full of natural and man made objects that look like persons but they are not. An argument for the RIGHTS of human growth should not rely on attributes such as the number of cells, the size of the human growth, and so forth. |
