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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank

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To: thames_sider who wrote (18307)7/21/2001 7:10:40 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) of 82486
 
Gimme a break!

Why does Clinton keep coming up? Because he was the last Democratic President and he seems to be considered an excellent Presidentr by many on this thread.

CHARACTER did you say? You compare Clinton and Bush on CHARACTER???? ROTFLMAO!!!!
As I said, GIMME A BREAK!
How many young women has Bush molested?

Foreign Policy? How much Foreign Policy experience did the GOVERNOR OF ARKANSAS acquire???
Clinton had 8 years as President to acquire that foreign policy experience you so admire. Bush has been in office 6 MONTHS.
So the Europeans are upset at him for dumping a treaty NOT ONE OF THEM HAS RATIFIED? SO? If the Europeans love that treaty so much WHY DIDN'T THEY RATIFY IT???
Has it occurred to you that Kyoto may be fatally flawed?
(not necessarily agreement - but understanding)
I'd say he understands perfectly.

Foreign Policy? How about that genius Governor of Georgia James Carter? Not only did he know nothing about it, HE DIDN'T LEARN ANYHTING!

Foreign Policy? The most knowledgeable on en entering office was undoubtedly Richard Nixon. What's your opinion of him?
contributions to party coffers or sheer length of service
You bring this up with respect to Clinton-Gore????? GIMME A BREAK!

capacity for independent thought.
Great sloganeering. Clinton had a different set of vested interests pushing him. He was quite subservient to them. And he wasn't particularly independent of corporate interests. Remember Bernie Schwartz?

Honesty in negotiation: diplomacy: patience: resilience: a sense of what is appropriate, and when: charisma: political balance and objectivity (rather than, my side is always right): and so forth...
Justify these with respect to Clinton. And then explain why it is evident Bush is lacking.

I don't claim Clinton was perfect on *all* the above
Damn right he wasn't! Not by a country mile!

unless you seriously look to him as a personal role model... did you? (Did many??) I doubt it.
Anyone who takes Clinton as a personal role model belongs in jail. And soon will be.
Hmmmm.... Maybe Condidit does.

I do believe that Bush is rather conspicuously lacking in nearly all the above.
That's your opinion. You're wrong. Bush did an excellent job of handling the Chinese- -US spy plane incident. Agreed? And I'm not particularly disturbed that the Europeans are upset by Kyoto. If they want a treaty like that ratified by us, they can go back and write a fair and reasonable treaty.

Good name, BTW - Heinlein-inspired, I presume? did you change the spelling, or do I misremember?
Thank you. Yes, with credit also to Jorj X. McKie (his is from the "Dune" series). I didn't check the spelling and I misremembered it.
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