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Non-Tech : Ashton Technology (ASTN)

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To: mmmary who wrote (3941)7/24/2001 3:45:48 PM
From: mst2000  Read Replies (1) of 4443
 
Your post is a classic example of what I have said about you -- you distort everything I say.

Examples:

"I brought to light the horrible finance deal which you kept saying was good, dilution is good." Fact: I never said the Jameson financing was good or that dilution was good - what I said was that (i) survival is more important than dilution at the moment, which has never been more true than it is now; (ii) if the company does well, the financing won't matter, and if it does poorly, the dilution won't matter; and (iii) the fact that the financing contains floorless convertible features does not mean that it will necessarily be abused by the investors in the way you insist must happen, because the parties involved in the financing already have a very sizable stake in the company and stand to make more money if the company succeeds than if it fails. Also, you exaggerate your own role in "bringing it to light". And you didn't "bring it to light" -- it was fully disclosed by the company and commented upon by blitsbud and other long time critics -- you have merely repeated it more often and in more shrill terms than the average poster who has commented upon it.

"I posted about westergaard and his astn fraud through his coverage." Interesting, so what? As is apparent from the record, Westergaard's activities had nothing to do with ASTN's rise in price in 1999 and early 2000 (that was due to SEC approval, PHLX/NYSE merger discussions, the signing of national clearing agents and the anticipation of an eVWAP launch that was utlimtately delayed for a full year or more), nor its subsequent decline in 2000 and 2001. He was and remains an irrelevancy to the people who are involved as investors in the company. He was a source of some limited information when it was very hard to come by (before the rise in 1999), but beyond that, he seemingly had little or no influence over the stock, the stock price or the company's investors.

" I posted about Gothner, Valentine, Fred's past, lawsuits..." And you have yet to tie any of these unrelated lawsuits into what any of these three men have done with ASTN (beyond the Rosenschaft suit that has been disclosed in dozens of ASTN's filings with the SEC). 90% of your posts on the subject are saturated with innuendo, but precious little of the content is in any way related to ASTN other than by the current association these men have with the company. Interestingly, you assume ASTN is a bad company because they are involved with TK and Valentine -- but you don't make the same assumptions about the companies that are now suing TK and Valentine -- regarding those companies, you assume without question that everything they are alleging must be true, because the allegations tie in with your overall theory of guilt by association. When the original Jameson line was pulled, you posted that even death spiral financiers won't fund ASTN. Now that its back on again at $15 MM, you are back to your original tactic of attacking the individuals associated with the financing, and their motives in relation to ASTN (be reference to lawsuits filed by others that have no relation to ASTN).

"You kept trying to keep all my info. quiet so you can post the happy talk to try and keep people from walking from this mess of a stock. You suckered people in hand in hand with Westergaard since january 1998. You are the fraudster." That is pure libel, something you are quite well versed in. I have done nothing to try and silence you (as if it were possible). I have been completely courteous to you, despite your inability to do the same to me (including your multiple invasions of my privacy). I had no relationship to Westergaard at any time, and never did anything "hand in hand" with him. If he chose to refer to one of my posts in his commentary, it certainly had nothing to do with me. And your accusation of fraud is just pure unadulterated BS.

You are quite possibly the most malicious, twisted person I have ever come across on the Internet. But as far as ASTN is concerned, you are becoming more and more of an irrelevancy all the time. But here's the bottom line Mary. Posting on internet message boards may have some short term effect on a few investors, and thus some short term effect on a stock's price, but it does not ultimately determine whether a trading system succeeds or fails. When internet message boards first started here 3-4 years ago, they were a place where people genuinely interested in finding out more about the companies they invested could go and participate and hopefully learn more about those companies. In the past year or two, especially since the tech crash in April 2000, but even before then, the nature and tone of the boards changed -- they were turned into ugly battlegrounds by people with either an agenda or a complete lack of respect for humanity and compassion. A place where anything can be said (and usually is by some twisted excuse for a human being) with total disregard for whether it is fair or truthful, and often in the most offensive personal terms imaginable. You are in the center of that trend. Your charges that I am a "fraudster" are right down the middle of that ugly fairway. Congrats.

I am at peace with what I have posted on the message boards. People of intelligence can read my posts for what they have always been -- honest expressions of opinion, references to clearly established facts, answer and discussion prompted by the posts of others, etc. And you can twist them beyond recognition - you do it all the time. I have never acted in a manner that is inconsistent with the opinions I have expressed here or on any of the other message boards. And I said a long LONG time ago that I did not have a crystal ball, and that delay in ramping up eVWAP would hurt the stock in the short term. It has. I thought ramp-up would take less time than it has -- but it took longer than management projected and it took longer than I expected. But ATG and eVWAP are still here, and there is every possibility that those of us who have supported this company, and who still support this company, will realize the fruits of that support, that our support will be vindicated. But whatever the outcome, you will still be a twisted, ugly person. JMO, as always.

MST
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