Now listen up Mr 007,
You need to free yourself from the Green catechism. Mindless chanting of the Green mantra will not lead to nirvana. It will lead to poverty.
<you are from New Zealand,and thus are speaking in deep ignorance as what rampant hydro-carbons burning can do if the oil/coal hydro-carbon ilk get the time machine rolled back as the U.S. greed machine wants.>
James, you are being presumptuous. I used to work for BP Oil and my job was to do with the effects of transport fuels on air and water [among other things]. I'm very well aware of the intricacies of using hydrocarbons to provide our energy needs [and other things]. I have thought about it for decades, before it became fashionable.
Yes, I'm a Kiwi, but I've lived and travelled around a fair chunk of the populated world over the decades. I am also fairly aware of the history of air pollution and water and ground pollution [not just from oil].
You can test my ignorance by demonstrating your knowledge. So far, I'm ahead on points about 150 to none.
<I don't think you know a damned thing about and what it was like in our industrially intense world before we started to make for controls.>
You might think I'm an ignorant little bushbaby from the forests of New Zealand, but I have experienced first hand the destruction of my surroundings by pollution. I and my family were environmentalists before most people were born [It was the 1950s when I became sensitized to human habitat destruction]. I can also read and have done quite a bit of that. I wonder why you presume I'm ignorant. I suppose because I wrote things which don't fit the Green catechism and rather than think, people reject such lamentable blasphemy out of hand - usually demanding burning at the stake [though that's environmentally careless].
<Ever here of place called Donora, Pennsylvania ,probably not.(But give the U.S. and China,a chance--Donora won't be a distant memory anymore.)> No, I never done hered about Donora. I can see that I should therefore be considered totally ignorant. Did you ever hear of a place called Manukau?
<But your blanketing all "greens" as 'wackos' puts you on the flip side--you sound like an anti-environmentalist 'wacko' Max btw, your preaching about how plants love Carbon DiOxide,like DUH,we don't know.Give me a break!>
On the contrary, I've been a lifelong environmental enthusiast [long before it was fashionable]. It's amusing to be lectured about environmental problems [since I think I have more actual concern and have done more that's useful about them than the Ecofreaks]. Anyway, some of my best friends are Greens [so you can see I'm not racist]. I'm sure not all Greens are wackoes. That was what I'd call a generalization. Most are quite ignorant, but of course there are also highly educated, intensely knowledgeable scientifically literate people who would call themselves Greens and I would have a great deal of respect for their expertise and would learn from them. For example, SI member AJ Mullen [who corrects errors in my facts and disagrees with my opinions, and often persuades me that I'm wrong and he's right].
In New Zealand, Greens are nicknamed Watermelons [green on the outside, but red in the middle, meaning authoritarian socialists on the inside].
You know, this is all very reminiscent of the financial problems facing the world. People are prone to do silly things to solve the problems and thereby make the problems worse, rather than go away. We are faced with environmental and financial collapse, neither of which needs to happen. It's fascinating that people get wacky ideas then go ahead and blunder their way to disaster. Jay would say I am the one blundering. So would you. On the contrary, I am the one who has seen the light and is nearing nirvana [in this life, not via a Jay Chen barbeque and afterlife].
Also 007, happy 60th for last May! You'll have to update your profile. The years roll by quickly these days [I know the feeling].
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