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To: Dan3 who wrote (51208)8/15/2001 2:29:38 PM
From: wanna_bmwRead Replies (1) of 275872
 
Dan, Re: "Here's a comprehensive collection of benchmarks between PIII-1000 and P4-1400"

Dan, the original comment, whether or not it was a joke, was that Pentium 4 was slow compared to Celeron. To show just how ridiculous that is, look to your very own bechmarks. After debunking a few because of some obvious reasons, you will see that the 1.4GHz Pentium 4 remains ahead of Pentium III 1GHz on most tests, and completely destroys a Celeron (most people wouldn't need convincing for this).

Here are the results of productivity benchmarks between the 1.4GHz Pentium 4, the 1GHz Pentium III, and the 800MHz Celeron.

Winstone 99 - This is an old, retired benchmark. No one buys a new computer to use the apps in this suite.
Business Winstone 2001 - Pentium 4 equals Pentium III and Celeron by 39%.
CC Winstone 2000 - Pentium 4 beats Pentium III by 16% and Celeron by 51%.
CC Winstone 2001 - Pentium 4 beats Pentium III by 4% and Celeron by 38%.
High End Winstone 99 - Retired benchmark.

Two out of five of these productivity benchmarks have long since been retired, but out of the remaining three, the Pentium 4 1.4GHz averages to beat the Pentium III 1GHz by 7% and the Celeron 800MHz by 43%.

3D Studio MAX - Which version is this??? Pentium 4 loses out by 16% over Pentium III and wins by 51% over Celeron 800MHz on this one, but Anand has shown better results on the new R4.02.

Sandra Integer - This is a synthetic test. It measures nothing about real world performance.
Sandra FPU - Ditto.
Sandra MMX CPU - Ditto.
Sandra MMX FPU - Ditto.
Sandra Memory Bandwidth CPU - Ditto.
Sandra Memory Bandwidth FPU - Ditto.
CPU Mark 99 - Ditto.
FPU Mark 99 - Ditto. Unbelievable. 8 straight benchmarks of completely useless tests.

Viewperf - This is synthetic, but at least it gives a good measure of real OpenGL performance, rather than issuing irrelevant instruction streams. In terms of Pentium 4 1.4GHz performance over Pentium III 1GHz and Celeron 800MHz performance:

- Awadvs-04 performance has been much improved with better video drivers, as you can see on many other review sites
- Drv-07 prefers Pentium 4 over Pentium III by 29% and over Celeron by 80%
- Dx-06 prefers Pentium 4 over Pentium III by 2.5% and over Celeron by 40%
- Light-04 prefers Pentium 4 over Pentium III by 24% and over Celeron by 70%
- Mmcad-01 prefers Pentium 4 over Pentium III by 32% and over Celeron by 80%
- Procdrs-03 prefers Pentium 4 over Pentium III by 38% and over Celeron by 91%.

Out of the OpenGL tests, If you average all the scores equally (except Awadvs-04 because there have been serious improvements with newer drivers), then you get Pentium 4 1.4GHz on top of Pentium III 1GHz by 25%, and on top of Celeron 800MHz by 72%.

i-Bench 2.0 - Here are how the 1.4GHz Pentium 4 compares with the 1GHz Pentium III and 800MHz Celeron.

- HTML - Pentium 4 loses to Pentium III by 35%, but beats Celeron by 12%.
- PDF - Pentium 4 equals Pentium III performance and beats Celeron by 74%.
- Java VM - Pentium 4 beats Pentium III by 24% and Celeron by 56%.
- Java Script - Pentium 4 loses to Pentium III 1GHz by 13%, but beats Celeron by 34%.
- Flash - Pentium 4 beats Pentium III by 10% and Celeron by 41%.
- Shockwave - Pentium 4 beats Pentium III by 15% and Celeron by 43%

If you weight all these Internet scores equally, Pentium 4 1.4GHz comes out on top of Pentium III 1GHz by 4.5% and on top of Celeron 800MHz by 43%.

MDK2 - Try enabling T&L, which most gamers do at this point. Firing Squad shows the Pentium 4 almost clock for clock with the Athlon. Even without, though, the Pentium 4 1.5GHz beats the 1GHz Pentium III by 6% and beats the 800MHz Celeron by 37%.
MBTR - Pentium 4 1.5GHz beats Pentium III 1GHz by 25%. Beats Celeron 800 by 58%.
Expendable - Pentium 4 1.5GHz loses to Pentium III 1GHz by 9%, but it beats Celeron 800 by 31%.
Quake III Demo - Pentium 4 1.5GHz beats Pentium III 1GHz by 8%. Beats Celeron 800 by 44%.
Quake III NV15 - Pentium 4 1.5GHz beats Pentium III 1GHz by 33%. Beats Celeron 800 by 108%.
Unreal Tournement - Pentium 4 1.5GHz beats Pentium III 1GHz by 18%. Beats Celeron 800 by 53%.

If you weight all the games equally, Pentium 4 1.4GHz comes out on top of Pentium III 1GHz by 16.5%, and on top of Celeron 800MHz by 55%.

Clearly, Dan, the soon-to-be slowest Pentium 4 soundly beats the fastest of the old generation Pentium III. And comparing it to a Celeron should be considered foolish.

wanna_bmw
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