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To: wanna_bmw who wrote (141959)8/19/2001 1:34:56 PM
From: Elmer  Read Replies (1) of 186894
 
Apparently Dan has still not figured out that I have him on ignore...

Copper interconnects have not been necessary for Intel's .18u manufacturing process to reach high frequencies.

You got it! Intel never said Copper was of no benefit. They said they didn't need it at .18u and the P4 performance confirms that.

- AMD's bulk .13u process will probably not give their chips the same boost in performance as Intel's .13u process will give them, due to AMD already having .13u features on their current process.

Speculation mode ON by non process expert

As has been reported by several people on this thread, what appears to be going on is this: AMD has gone extremely aggressive on their channel lengths in a desperate attempt to keep from falling behind at a faster and faster rate. They have achieved channel lengths smaller than Intel's .18u process and they have probably done so by using phase shifting masks/lithography techniques. Intel has not used this technique on .18u but may use it on .13u due to the delays in delivery of new equipment. This is why people are saying AMD has already spent their .13u benefits.

Speculation mode OFF

Now a question for our experts - If my speculation is plausible, why not use phase shifting on .13u once the new equipment arrives? There must be some downside or Intel would have done it on .18u. Yield problems? Subthreshold currents too high? What's up with that?

Yousef - Paul - TWY?

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