Solon, I must say that your post is one of the most solid well reasoned posts for the pro-choice side that I have seen. Normally I always just answer post immediately after reading them but I think it best that in this case I spend slightly more time crafting a response.
Most of your post is both logical and relevant to the issue at hand. While my response to the majority of your post will follow later I will respond to the parts of your post that are not logical, not true, or not relevant right now, recognizing that answering these point does not adress the core of your post.
. Young sperm HAVE 46 chromosomes. I don't know whether or not you masturbate, but you might wish to consider getting snipped--in order to avoid killing what you consider to be a human person. Also bear in mind: if you fertilize an egg, you will be knowingly creating a situation where approximately half of those (to you) "persons" will be killed within seconds or days by Mother Nature or by God. If "in vitro" could lessen the chances of the occurrence of these gazillion daily deaths--then it would seem to me that you have an ethical obligation to avoid intercourse.
Young sperm on not separate organisms. They do they contain within themselves human potential. They are not humans and they will die shortly whether they are ejaculated or not. In vitro fertilization normally results in a greater number of embryos either dying on their own or being deliberately destroyed then does normal fertilization.
When it becomes appreciated that virtually every woman will abort at some time in her life (whether spontaneous or induced)--then perhaps the self righteous will be able to appreciate that woman are not evil demons--but they are mothers, sisters, daughters, co-workers, lovers, spouses, and friends. Then perhaps people will forego the "moral" superiority they are proud to feel when they are able to despise the hapless people with unwanted pregnancies.
Spontaneous abortion is not relevant. It is not a deliberate act. Humans die at all stages of their development. Fetuses are not different then people my age in this. I never claimed women where evil demons. Even women who have abortions are almost always not motivated by evil. They may commit evil actions but these actions are not normally done with evil motive but rather with a lack of understanding of what it is they are doing. I despise the action, but I have never said I despise the person. I do would not presume to tell everyone what you are feeling, because there is no way I can know this. Please do me the same courtesy.
Perhaps they will even come to recognize that the exaggerated frenzy which they exhibit and interpret as "love" for someone else's egg...is usually not "love" at all. But rather it is a cheap and ostentatious display of self importance in one who has difficulty with true intimacy, one who has a terror of the universe and her ways---one who is incapable of understanding the big picture.
Again you try to psychoanalyze your opposition from a distance. I can not speak for others but I can tell you that my concern is genuine, perhaps not love because I don't claim to be able to love those that I don't know, but lack of a feeling of love does not prevent one from being legitimately concerned about the rights of others. If I thought your rights were being abused or infringed on I would support your rights but I don't claim to love you. This section of you post is cheap, petty, unsupported, untrue and unnecessary. Your argument stands or falls fine without it. It contributes nothing to your case rather it is just a slap at those that you disagree with.
So many of these pregnancies could have been avoided if the church was not selfishly seeking to increase its power by creating a larger army of soldiers. Two thousand years of insanity. It is time to move on.
Irrelevant. Whatever reasons the Catholic Church might have for its policies, I am not the Catholic Church and the church is not defending itself here. I have not argued against contraception, and contraception being wrong or right does not affect the moral status of abortion.
I will address the core of your post, the biggest part of it that is rational and relevant later.
Tim |
