SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Strategies & Market Trends : The Covered Calls for Dummies Thread

 Public ReplyPrvt ReplyMark as Last ReadFilePrevious 10Next 10PreviousNext  
To: rydad who wrote (2173)8/23/2001 2:04:43 PM
From: Allen Furlan  Read Replies (1) of 5205
 
Rydad, this may be of use to you. These are my opinions only but I have been playing options for about 20 years and consider myself a conservative investor even though I have consistently written so called "dangerous" naked options.
From about 1990 until 1995 I wrote options for my father's small retirement account to supplement his social security pension. Here are the approximate parameters that you could expect.
A. Volatile stocks with shorter term(4-5 weeks) out of the money calls. Profit of X about 80% of time and loss of 3X about 20%. Net .8X-.6X=.2X or 2% per month if your options bring in 10% of margin set aside. Example is a write made today of nvda Sept 100 call at 1. Initial margin is 8.5 and yield is 1/8.5=11.7% Risky high volatility stock extremely over priced but with backing by momentum players and hence large time premium.
B.Non volatile stocks with 8-9 week time frame and about 5% yield. Expected value with 90% success and 10% loss of .3X (.9X-.3X=.6X) or net .05*.6=.03 over two months.
So you can see that about 1.5-2 % per month is about your best expectation given that your losses though less frequent than gains can be significant.
In the case of my father's account he had a 60K Treasury for margin and earned about 10% per year on option writes and 5% on the T bill.
Don't get to confident that you can do 3% a month. Make sure you factor in the sizeable losses you can expect. The strategy I use in my accounts is to write both covered calls and naked calls in a way that the portfolio is balanced(ie upward movement in stocks compensate for losses in call positions. My last 4 naked writes have been 7 vjgao(brcm) at 2.2 on 7/31;10 vxlah(elnk) at .6 on 8/07;10 viwal(ets/rstn) at .55 on 8/17 and 5 rvuit(nvda) at 1 on 8/23.
As you can see the leaps are low yield but also in my opinion relatively low risk.
Again in my opinion the write of naked puts on a stock like GE is considerably more risky than far out of the money calls on overpriced stocks.
Hope this helps.
Report TOU ViolationShare This Post
 Public ReplyPrvt ReplyMark as Last ReadFilePrevious 10Next 10PreviousNext