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To: Elmer who wrote (52569)	8/27/2001 3:41:12 AM
From: jcholewa	Read Replies (1) of 275872

> Don't waste any more time on this one. Anyone who clings > to this notion that Athlon is still the performance leader > is too far out of touch to produce an objective review. I think you're jumping the gun a bit here. First off, the article's conclusion is that the Pentium 4 is the performance leader. Secondly, before the P4-2.00, the fastest Pentium 4 operated at 1.80GHz. Most comparisons using a wide variety of benchmarks at the very least put this and the 1.40GHz Athlon in the same general ballpark, performance-wise. It is completely reasonable for some reviews to conclude that the P4-1.80 is faster than the Tbird-1.40 and it is equally reasonable for some reviews to conclude that the P4-1.80 is slower than the Tbird-1.40, especially since different websites vary in their choice of benchmarks. Now, Tech Report happens to be one of the places in which the benchmarks average out such that the 1.40GHz Thunderbird/Athlon outperforms the 1.80GHz Pentium 4 in general. That you could say based on this that the reviewer is "too far out of touch" shows that you are being quite rude and inconsiderate. I should point out that this particular reviewer went out of his way to contact Intel and nVidia when he came to a point where the P4 was performing oddly. As a result, he was able to obtain necessary drivers to fix certain OpenGL related quirks in spec ViewPerf. If he were "too far out of touch", there would be no way that he would do something like this. What he did here is called "being fair to all parties". Additionally, I should point out that in his rendering test he was willing to use unofficial Intel v5.0 compiled binaries in order to give the Netburst microarchtecture a better chance of competing in that category. Though the P4 still did not win in this particular area, it is still a testament to this person's good intentions that he was willing to forgo actual release binaries in favour of those that show the new chip in a stronger light. Frankly, I think your attitude about this review is based on an unwillingness to really give it a chance. I know at least one engineer inside Intel who has been singing its praises (especially about the OpenGL thing). I guess you're just too much of a 'Droid to be fair about these things. -JC

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