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To: jcholewa who wrote (52721)	8/28/2001 11:15:47 AM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) of 275872

Elmer, please do more careful research in the future.... As you can see, there are often multiple variables to take into account. It is possible that a P3XP could outperform a Coppermine by 40% in a benchmark like this using similar compilers, but in this case it is fairly likely that the more advanced compilers are having a positive effect. This was not intended as a Doctoral Thesis. It was a simple comparison and I think the majority of the improvement was due to the increase of L2, but probably not all. Also, please read Ali's comment regarding pipeline length and process technology. It was ... annoying to see you lightly implying that AMD's process technology was inferior to Intel's process technology based solely on the fact that AMD's shallower pipe microarchitecture operates at a lower frequency than Intel's deeper pipe microarchitecture. Ali was the first person to grace my ignore list so I don't see his posts. I did not intend to suggest that the two processes could be judged by comparing frequency alone. Of course the pipeline lengths would produce different frequency limits even if both were on the same process. What I tried to prevent was any suggestion that the extreme lithography techniques used by AMD could be seen as superior to those used by Intel. The question seems to be, if AMD can produce 70-80nm gates, why can't Intel if Intel's process is equal or better? This question needs to be put into perspective. Intel is now at 2GHz with more conservative techniques, by reasonable standards Intel holds the performance as well as marketing highground while AMD is gasping for breath at 1.4GHz with extreme techniques. Pipeline length aside, the answer seems pretty obvious. Desperate times call for desperate measures and Intel isn't the one facing desperate times. EP

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