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Politics : High Tolerance Plasticity

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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (7445)9/5/2001 10:56:51 PM
From: MetalTrader  Read Replies (2) of 23153
 
ed,

to continue your pogostick/ball analogy, I see both. But whether pogo stick or ball, it must bounce off *something*. That is the question isn't it? When and where? Surely we can find a trend that is never violated. But what would be the point of that? I can easily produce a chart that shows the next bounce at 600 on the S&P. But isn't the aspect of capital preservation important. I personally am no more interested in "bouncing" off 600 than I am of bouncing off Fifth Avenue from a twenty story swan dive.

With regard to the fundamental arguments you make, allow me to challenge some assumptions. First the growing backlash against globalization is by no means a dead issue. At the highest levels in government globalization is NOT taken as a fait accompli. Just as the assumed productivity gains in the U.S. over the past decade are now being called into question so too are some other assumptions. Thirty African countries including South Africa and Nigeria signed a declaration rejecting new powers for the WTO. Trade is not as free as you'd like it to be I assure you. As one who has testified repeatedly in Washington in anti-dumping procedings on this you'll just have to trust me.

A recent study titled The Emperor Has No Growth has been published which compares global growth in developing nations during a period 1960 - 1980 when most developing countries had restrictive and inward looking economies with the period 1980 to 2000, an "open" period. Using the UN's concept of a human development index the annual growth rate slowed in ALL countries, developing and developed. We can argue whether the index is relevant or proper..but to millions around the world it is seen as relevant. Free trade and globalization isn't a slam dunk.

Multi-year returns in equities have been the best place to put assets? Depends on your multiyear. If you began your multiyear period in 1965 you waited until the 1982 to recover your investment (Dow Industrial Average). That is simply too long to remain passively unprofitable.

Buying in 1905 meant 1944 was the year you really started to make money (non inflation adjusted of course)A period just as incredible in technological advancements in transportation and communication. The current bull market is a new kid relatively speaking. Be careful with assumptions. There are some very long periods of stagnation.

With regard to Oracle being okay to lose 36% I ask why? And why is Oracle different from Poloroid, Xerox, Digital Equipment, IBM in 1970? Is it possible Oracle never recovers? I am not competent to judge whether Oracle will be a continued leader or will be supplanted by someone new. I'll let the market tell me.

I challange your comments mostly because it makes ME think. Also I was trained in a fundamental investment environment and found it so flawed when challenged, I can't stop <g>

mt
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