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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank

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To: Lane3 who wrote (26650)9/12/2001 1:01:26 PM
From: X Y Zebra  Read Replies (2) of 82486
 
Seems to me that we got shifted into a different model yesterday Was what happened a crime? Or was it war? Or was it something else, like piracy?

Yes we have shifted. What happened yesterday was an act of war. Well organized and executed by a terrorist organization that while at this time there is no 100 % hard evidence that it was them, recent past history points at them (i.e. Bin Laden and his "al Qai'da" organization).

Specific and symbolic targets were hit, i.e. The WTC = Capitalism. The Pentagon = Military, while I do not know for sure, I suspect that the plane that went down in rural Pennsylvania, was aimed at the White House = Political Power.

Their calculated aim is not only that of destruction but to hit hard at the American people and our way of life with the horrifying scenes we all witnessed in real time.

In short to instill terror right here at home and break our feeling of safety.

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It seems silly to be at war with bin Laden, one person. On the other hand, we certainly aren't at war with Arabs or Muslims, as some have suggested. The closest I can get to identifying an enemy is the terrorist network. That seems to best fit the piracy model, although there are war elements to it.

The enemy is the terrorist network. It is war it is not piracy. Piracy implies a robbery, and a degree of personal gain.

War are open attacks, while terrorism is not a nation, they pursue an idea. The leaders have been capable of using those ideas to convince their followers to easily give up their life in the pursuit of their aim. They have been capable of crossing borders in the process of unifying people against the US. In a way, the terrorist network is stronger than a single nation.

They have clearly defined their enemy and that definition is what this country stands for. We are their targets

In the past there have been countries that have harbored these savages. They are savages because they have no regard for human life. We saw that yesterday.

They have proven to be an effective executioners of this agenda. The aim of terrorism is to destroy and instill terror on the victims of their attack.

To a degree, we have allowed these people to proliferate because we have allowed these nations to continue protecting the terrorists.

I understand that it is a difficult to clearly identify and go after these terrorists, but what alternative do we have?

Will we continue to simply witness what we saw yesterday? The time for talk is over. We have no choice but retaliate once we have learned with a degree of certainty who was the mastermind of the event. If a nation state is sheltering them, we give them a reasonable time to produce them or to co-operate with the US military to get to them. If they do not, then I for one, fully support a surgical attack to destroy the objective. I would not be too concerned with the unfortunate "collateral damage".

They killed thousands of innocent people and they did not seem to be too concerned. NO, I am not lowering to their level; it is simply a matter of survival.

I am perfectly aware the poverty under which these countries live, but yesterday's act will not change that. On the contrary, it will worsen that condition. It will be a long, long time for me to support any sort of foreign aid, before such resources are used in this country first.
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