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To: lorne who wrote (76876)9/18/2001 6:39:42 PM
From: kirby49  Read Replies (1) of 116753
 
lorne:

<People come here because our countries are FREE and their's are not.
One of the big problems will be trying to figure out which of the peoples that come here are really here for the freedom's we enjoy.

This is important and one of the reason's for the delay at the moment. I am amazed at Bush's restraint and which directions he has gone and in which order he has taken to neutralize the situation diplomatically, as he gets this job done to find out the people here who are not here for freedom. It is important for us to not attack the mosques here and get learning that Sikhs and Muslims both wear turbins and have mosques, but Sikhs are not Muslim. This is not entirely our own responsiblity however. Many feel that they just all show up and when they get here they stick to their own communities. This is true of all immigrants when they start arriving and I was astounded to find out that Toronto had more Italians than anywhere else in the world except Rome as there are no other cities in Italy with more than 500,000. Unless you're as forward as I am (cause I ask,there's no dishonour in asking) many feel threatened and to those that are it's like trying to figure out which are former Presbyterians and Methodists in the United Church of Canada and why there are still also Presbyterian churches and Methodist churches.

I am angry, and have always known within myself that I would fight to my death for my family and country unlike that poster you replied to. How about this for a solution to our problems. First, it's the Taliban's move and I understand they have all gone to some community in the mountains how far from Kabul I do not know, but there must only be widows and young children left. I believe many Afghans are not muslims and from listening to the UN ambasador today the old president is in the NE section of the country but I don't think that will help. Could we at least drop food and clean water for them, bandages etc? I know our own suffraget movement wasn't that long ago in total history, but religious fundamentalism shouldn't enslave these women and any people who can be freed will only help the cause of freedom. We have resolve some issues over time, no, as muslim men go bearheaded and Sikh's do not, and serve proudly in the RCMP, but I don't believe they take their Skarbi's(sp? daggers worn in knee high socks like Boy Scouts) to school. I have heard Muslim women who are at least allowed to speak to say they keep covered as they are the pearls of Islam. Well Adam and Eve, or Darwins first, either way they still had no clothes and the sight of the birth of my children tell me this is not necessary, just a putdown. Thirty years ago there was a wave of immigrants from Pakistan and I don't know what event sent them here, but they have stayed and many have prospered. Since they left the fundamentalists have gained more control and the young boys are brainwashed to become martyrs. Are there muslims of good faith who understand that men and women are equal (I've always thought women superior cause they can do all the sames things plus that big one more!), who have lived in North America for some time and are willing to go back and make things right after all this. If there were enough of them and muslim leaders here to get it together perhaps we could put centuries of strife behind us. Probably too simplistic and we would need other symbols of good faith such as the Christian Fundamentalists apologizing for their words this week, or Jews allowing their women to weep at the wailing wall.

Shouldn't have started this, as was feeling a little more optomistic today. Once again feeling futile.

Bob
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