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To: lorne who wrote (77041)9/21/2001 2:24:17 AM
From: kirby49  Read Replies (4) of 116752
 
Lorne:

I have been trying to warn people of this worthless piece of Canadian crap. He says he was invited to live here and I certainly hope that whomever invited him doesn't have a family history with vets who served proudly in defense of their freedoms including that little skirmish we had around Niagara Falls and York around 1812. This is no time for defence, do not ignore. Just do not post directly to him but to me or someone else sympathetic. We shouldn't be too hard on him to drive him underground, because as we have seen it is easier to keep track of your enemies when they are right there. And there are others here on this thread and elsewhere on SI there are even Americans who would not fight for freedom but would lie down with their families and die whatever biological death they throw upon us. It's unbelievable.

His first post of his opinion after the attack, to suck you in. He's what DougAK would call a cut and paster and recently made a claim in your exchange with him that that was his purpose to bring news and try to be first. Beware the messenger.

To:long-gone who wrote (76032)
From: Richnorth Tuesday, Sep 11, 2001 11:27 AM
View Replies (2) | Respond to of 77045

Ya right!
But, for now, Ben Ladin and Saddam and others like them must be having VBG !!! LOL !!!, and ROFLTAO !!!

The US must act fast and STOP them for good !!!

Quite a change from his recent post. He says in one post and I think this is a direct quote cause I'm not going to look it up "I am a free thinker". Yet he scoffs at those who are willing to fight and all who have fought for freedom in the past. He might as well have pissed on my father's grave who spent a few years in a German POW camp. Let alone every Vet who gave his life and left behind their families, wives, children and even dreams of children. Canada's so bloated with bureaucratic federal, provincial, municipal politicians, employees, contractors who always get the jobs etc I'm sure he's sucking off the tit of this country somewhere and probably those that invited him here as well. This is not to say however, as he might twist it, that I think every politician or government employee thinks the same way he does, or I do or any other way you can twist it.

To find the above post, I clicked what I thought was 75000, but forgot a 0 so was sent to 1998 and who was there in 1998 on the 40 list replying to the above mention gutless American, but the above mentioned gutless Canadian. Giant frauds have been perpetrated since time began and it is not for me to say if Chistianity or Islam, either, both or neither are frauds, but I do know where I stand and that is in the free world which is mostly Christian. Strange how they want to come here but not many planes full going back. Because Canada does not have the symbols standing for freedom such as Lady Liberty perhaps those that come don't understand that when they come for freedom they must fight for freedom with their allies. Also we have division between Government and Religion, however religions better tow the line. Smith and Brigham Young were not allowed to keep their wives here yet today the Mormons flourish and I'm sure most of them wouldn't care if I thought their religion was based on a fraud. Muslims here better know that it is the LAW here that they have only one wife and I have heard one muslamic leader or scholar after another on TV proclaim this is not part of their religion or that is not part of etc but their perceptions, Christians perceptions and reality get all muddled up. It is the LAW here that all are equal and blacks will tell you they have to fight all the time to try and achieve this as women will tell you it is not that long ago here they got the vote. As long as we perceive that they are hiding and suppressing their women and feed their daughters propaganda from an early age, then they will be always be suspect. They will also always be suspect if they accept judgement decisions on their religious matters from back home. Ya, Ya, don't harass me about N. Ireland, Henry VIII, Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox.(This last sentence not for you Lorne but for flaming I'm sure to receive) It is also the law here that allows me to think their religion to be a fraud and they must accept this as well. I don't think any are perfect and I damn well know I'm not. I lived in the city where that yellow belly is, every year the Great One played there and was walking in a park downtown one day when a born again Christian engaged me in conversation. Not homeless, but a little shabbily dressed he insisted I had to be born again and went on to quote chapter and verse etc. After some time he asked me to show him in the bible and explain to him why what he says is not true. He was surprised when I said that all he had said were true for him, but I did not need to be reborn because I had never lost it. I do not need to be a biblical scholar to know right from wrong and even then was a bachelor who went to church 40 to 50% sundays. He asked me how I knew I was a Christian and that everyone didn't have to be reborn whether they lost it or not. To me it is very simple. Jesus taught us that if you asked God to forgive you of your sins, you will be forgiven. I said I may have suffered vices as I think I just had too big a breakfast, but I had asked for forgiveness since I had sinned last and if I walked across the street and was hit and killed by a car right now, I am sure I would go to heaven. It has been accepted that Mohammed Ali and others converted to Islam (didn't Cat Stevens, saw him in concert once) and I don't know what his mother thought or even if she is still alive and remained a Christian, but if she sees what happened last week, do you think she might whisper in that proud shell of a man's ear it's still not too late to change your mind back. Although the government might not allow it as we are at only the beginning of war here it might be a help if we saw some Muslim leaders on TV proclaiming that they had found a dozen of these scoundrels amongst them and us and turned them in, for make no mistake, there are more here and I don't think we have had enough cooperation in a week to ferret them all out. Also help if they say there are millions of good faith here who appreciate what they have had for as long as they have been here and when this is over they will go back en mass to correct the problems with their people. Also, not being a raacist here and saying we should force them back or not allow them to return, I'm saying if they are of good faith they should do it. I'm rambling again and will be subject to flaming and word twisting, but there is one more thing that I think THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

FREEDOM OF SPEECH

I will even fight for Richnorth, Papaya King, and I see that since I began writing this response you got a reply from another piece of shit Nos Moking. We here know that there are some who have paid or been given many memberships and post under many alias' on SI and I guess that's okay and part of it and you got to be aware always (different from beware which is what they want). In times past what these people have said would be treasonous and they would have been treated harshly. Is it okay to censure these opinions of the yellow bellied? Problably not, but SI thinks that it is okay to allow treasonable thoughts but to censure words that they consider profane.

Of course this is the height of ridiculousness. I would tell you to look back, but there was a battle all night long on SI about this very issue of standing up. Gold Tutor was filled with vitriol and even if you disagree with her on however many things here, on this you cannot disagree. Tom, (Abner) whose thread this is stepped into the fray for a while, but of course they were attacked for keeping lists, as in McCarthyism of who would fight for freedom. They have been quiet for a while but they must come back and you Lorne can trust them in this regard. Of course the one who lost was Peter(Svenlar) as he broke down into profanity all night long defending us from these scum suckers. It's so hard to write about without getting angry and right now I'm pounding the keys as hard as I can. Ask SI how many posts have been deleted. Ask them why they think treasonable posts shouldn't be censured as much as profane posts. They even gave him a break, cause he's got away with it before but I guess one of these white striped assholes reported him so they "had to take action" even though they thought he was right. When he railed away at SI Jeff(?)or whoever the hell is in charge in an email exchange about censorship, he had his sentence extended by 30 days. What do they fear here at SI?

You'll note the time whenever I get around to posting this, but I started writing before Bush's speech. Missed some, but I think he said you're either with us or you're with the terrorists. I would take a corollary to be you're either willing to fight for freedom or you are an enemy. This is not Vietnam or the Gulf War, this is WWIII. Don't sell your gold at the beginning of a war!

Bob
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