<< Robert there is nothing personal in this. >> There is to me. I do have some controversial views, and I have been attacked many times before on SI. But, I very seldom take any debate personally. That is until you started calling names and until you started falsifying my views. Attack what I say. Attack my views, if you want. Use strong language, if you want. I respect that type of debate. But, don't try to prove your point by lying about my views, or calling me names, unless you want to make it personal. And, that's OK too. << I am a liberal to the core but I utterly despise the turn to statism that the liberal movement took. >> This makes no sense. There are all flavors of views, in this country. There is a large conservative view, a large moderate view, a large liberal view, and then extremes both on the conservative and liberal sides. Even moderates have combinations of conservative and liberal views. There are moderates that are pro-life and moderates that are pro-choice. You try to paint everyone as having the exact same point of view. This is impossible and is nonsense. << To me liberalism means the concept of freedom of mind action and belief. It embraces reaching out to discover and embrace truth. >> This is a very rare description of liberalism. Do you mean that conservatism "doesn't try to discover and embrace truth"? Does this mean that conservatism doesn't have "the concept of freedom of mind action and belief"? << I despise Robertson and Falwell as they represent an assault on rational thinking ... >> I agree with you on this. See. We can find mutual ground without insults. But, please, don't tell me later that I support Robertson and Falwell, or make up anything else about my views. |