The petition is proof the shorts & bashers are upset and their mafia mentality comes out clear as a bell. This petition has struck a nerve. Why are they so upset? Is it because they know if the petition gets to the right person their days of robbing American investors is coming to an end. Transparency with checks and balances and offshore naked shorting will be stopped thus hurting those that shore from offshore to by pass any US regulation.
Instead of legally stealing their will be transparency with check & balances. Their will be fines and prison time awarded for stealing American investor's hard earned money.
They cry on the petition various things like:
The second post states clearly shorts are in control of market. 2. lance berger with this economy why own if you can short
But how can you short if MMs are the only ones that can naked short and the rest is suppose to go by the uptick rule which apparently is not as efficient as it is suppose to be. Offshore is how and thus certain Americans along with other offshore posters are gleeful at their accomplishment. But it also raises the red flag if the shorters are also pumpers that sell into their touts and then short into the tout volume thus playing both sides.
Thus it started on the petition with one of the largest short group societies (cartels):
197. Anthony@Pacific - You are totally insane the mkts have cratered because of the sins of The major Firms on WallStreet , By the way they have the largest naked short positions of any one, They are exempt from the same rules the public is bound to, THIS IS NOT A SIGNIATURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But it is a signature and it proves that even the short sellers know what the petition is about is about is true... Naked shorting and rules what few their are not being followed.
201. Moe fuelondelphia - Shorts is what is keeping this market up, also the evil shorts that you say are so bad have saved many innocent investors millions/billions from the scams and overvalued companies out there. This is not a signature
Now this propaganda in nonsense. The shorts destroyed the market and now want to say that they are doing good. They short, bash then when they have destroyed the market they support it because they are covering? Wait a minute that is like saying well I borrowed your car and sold it for top dollar. Now I have found the same car for pennies on the dollar so I am buying for you to return what I borrowed. No harm done. I am an honest man ...
202. Moez Kassam - Short Sellings makes the market more efficient.......these posts about 'shorting is killing the market' is spoken out of pure IGNORANCE.
The only thing naked shorting is efficient at is stealing investors money whereas American legal shorting is using investor property paid for by investor money against the investor. That is stealing ... Ignorance is to allow it to go on when even Hong Kong broker are the middle man not the lending agent... the real property owner is...
205. Jim Riggins The markets cannot work without shorting. They just don't teach it in investing 101. ERTS would fall to 20's immediatly if there was no shorting. Conisder yourself lucky that ERTS is still in the 40's, thanks to the shorts who keep buying to cover. This, also, is NOT a signature.
Sure it can it will be a market of the people, by the people, for the people, where the people are the real property owners. But this is crazy ... They short a stock then want to scream they are covering is good. Why are they covering if the stock would fall to the 20's if they didn't... I do not think so they are covering because they are scared it will go up and cost them.
207. no signature (see comment below) Market Specialist and Market Makers are allowed to sell short, as a mechanism to facilitate stock transaction to the general public "to make a market" in what may be an illiquid market. The general publics participation in selling short makes the markets even more efficient, and, at the same time, provide competition for the Market makers and Wall Street firms that are selling short. Without the ability to sell short, money funds would sell stock at the bid, really pummel the price of the security they were selling instead of trying to work the sale in an uptick.
What a crock ... they will work the sale just the way it is now on the ask for the big boys. Talk about ignorant.
209. petewitt save the markets my ***! So they will run $2 stocks to $1200/share again. How about stop whinning and blaming others for your poor trading skills and stop tampering with free markets-if you pay $1000 for a $2 stock imo it should have never that high to begin with-shorting keeps this from happening.Can you imagine1999 with out it?This is not a signature.
Stocks ran from .05 to $5.00 and $2.00 to $1200.00 because shorts covered then started it all over again. Shorting relentlessly to crush our markets. Ever wonder how the entire market ran to new highs and now on new lows. Can you spell PUMP & DUMP then SHORT & DISTORT across the board!
260. Michael Hunt me agree. why me loss so many money. i ear what they speak and i losey money. i buy exds what went wrong. i buy athm why i. i buy pets.com cause i think animals need food to, i guess animals donot eat. i never see fat squirreels so what i thinking. i think it is the shorters because i be not stupid. help i. thunk you.
Sarcasms and mafia mentality is fraught within the shorters comments. Hey I stole from you and there is nothing you can do about. Remember the laws protect me not the innocent or the victims. I can steal from you and bash because I can get away with it. What do you think this is Hong Kong where I could do time for I am doing in the US.
267. John Doe Does anyone know where to get free porn online? I'm looking for naked body builder type women. TIA
Sick people and there are those pumping their stock picks.
293. garygnu You guys are using this as a scapegoat for your problems. Shorting is not the problem. People panicking from thier stocks and fund managers realizing that they hold junk is the problem. To stop shorting shows complete ignorance of the checks and balances of our system. How about instead of no own no sell, have not enough money can't buy more than you have to prop junk up. I'd take this seriously if this petition was for no shorting and no margin. Margin is just as much to blame. Guess what, shorting will continue and there isn't much you can do to stop it.
See the mentality is we can because we can and there is nothing you can do about it. To heck with the SEC, to heck with America and its markets. We can because we can and there is nothing to stop us.
285. Jack Frost When you post also include what stocks you own so I can short them. Shorters rock, Naz going to 1000. I think we should just do away with the ability to Sell period. Or maybe you could listen to CEO's of MSTR or GENI and take your stock out of street name then get screwed when you cannot sell and GENI goes down 70% in a week. Really the CEO's care about you. No really.
This guy does not even realize it is a petition and thinks it is a chat site. LOL .. but shorts do not care about facts just impression management to get capitulation and thus make money. Facts have nothing to do with it. It is all in the bash. See the unrealistic prediction of 1000 on the NAz. Of course if the government does not do something this is a self-prophesizing result.
311. Renfrew Morte This petition is complete ******* sponsored by the desperate and the greedy. The capital markets would decay completely if shorting were halted. Market makers could no longer maintain a neutral position and one would see selling into the bid become the norm. Volatility would be unprecedented and ultimately disasterous.
I see a market of rightful owners, by rightful owners, for rightful owners is wrong. It should be of the shorts, by the shorts and for the shorts. What volatility? Most bashing and shorting and tactics used is to make the trading in a security stop or slow it down. Where is the underlying basis to this argument? take out the buyers and the shorts take it to nothing without resistance. But I forgot that is volatility and making the market liquid when in fact the volume dries up.
327. Osama bin Laden I agree, the Great Satan of Short Selling must be eliminated!!
Good grief!
385. Stone Livingston III It seems that there are many pathetic individuals on this board who have lost money in the market and are now looking for someone to blame for their own stupidity. It's not short sellers that drove this market down you dimwits...it was overvaluation, pure and simple. YOU chose to buy an overvalued investment and now YOU must spend your retirement serving my children french fries at the local burger joint to make up for it. Blame nobody but yourselves...you pulled the trigger and now you have to eat the bullet. Ban short selling...LOL...poor (literally), mislead souls. By the way...Le Nasdaq 100 is still carrying a PE of 100+...we're going well below Nasdaq 1000 before this is all over.
Again it is not a board it is a petition and this proves shorts do not care about the facts ... they are so use to bashing it does not matter and they get away with it because they can. Again the NAZ is going to 1000 even on this petition the FUD reigns.
409. Short To Zero Now I've heard it all...Broderick blaming the shorts for overvaluation in the markets. If you were wise enough to check the short interest figures when the Nasdaq was rolling from 4000-5000, you would have seen record low short interest...yes, there was some short covering, but it pales in comparison to the amount of schmucks that were busy putting their retirement money in stock such as CMGI and CSCO. This petition is a pure and utter joke, showing a complete lack of understanding for how the market works. If you ban short selling, you will see a dramatic liquidity crisis, along with a collapse in the dollar, and add to that a ton of selling as previously hedged positions become unhedged, forcing the an investor that was neutral to either eat the risk or completely liquidate. Halting short selling would do nothing to stop this market slide, as many on this board seem to believe.
Short interest figures are only those that are reported voluntarily and not complete. That is why we need transparency as one critical element of this petition. What is the real numbers. Offshore does not even have to borrow just short and it shows up as a sell. Cold hearted mentality still.
418. BUY GOLD NOW! GET ****** REAL & STOP BLAMING SHORTS FOR YOUR POOR INVESTMENTS! BLAME WALL STREET FOR LETTING SO MANY FAKE COMPANIES COME PUBLIC AND DESTROYING THE CONCEPT OF VALUE AND WHAT A COMPANY IS WORTH! IT'S NOT SHORT SELLERS THAT DROVE PRICES DOWN, IT'S THE LUDICROUS OVERVALUATION THAT STILL PERSISTS IN JUST ABOUT EVERY STOCK ON THE EXCHANGE. JUST SELL & BUY GOLD!
Shorts are in control and want even more capitulation. Get out and let us cover and buy gold so we can into your buying and then take that gain and buy stock to cover the short positions. You are sheep do as I say so I can make money off of the American investor.
482. this is stupid awwww.... did someone get burned on the market and now want their mommy to make it all better? The market is doing fine... its bouncing back and its your own fault if you panicked and lost your shirt instead of waiting for it to recover.. .
Short sellers are the same regardless. These comments shows there are elements out to destroy our markets and will not let up until they have it completely destroyed.
But they can because they can ... The SEC needs to address this NOW!
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