SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Strategies & Market Trends : Value Investing

 Public ReplyPrvt ReplyMark as Last ReadFilePrevious 10Next 10PreviousNext  
To: Bob Rudd who wrote (13148)10/1/2001 2:02:30 PM
From: Brendan W  Read Replies (2) of 78680
 
The Limited.

Bought The Limited (LTD).

The LTD story is somewhat involved and I will describe it in shorthand. PM me any questions about the shorthand. In order to follow the story you need to know what LTD owns. In other words, this post needs to be read in conjunction with an understanding of LTD. Also, my assumptions are intended to be conservative. If errors are found, please advise.

FYI, LTD yields 3% on a 30 cent dividend. LTD’s debt is rated baa2 by Moodys.

My investment rationale (contrary to the Motley Fool post here: fool.com is that when buying LTD one is buying Intimate Brands (IBI) at a 33% discount, not buying Express/The Limited/Lerner/Structure. IBI is Victoria’s Secret and Bath & Bodyworks and is valued by the market as LTD’s mainstay. The 33% discount puts approximately a 9 PE on LTD’s IBI stake. IBI has not had a good year and the events of 9/11 are not going to make it better. IBI has a PE of approximately 13 on 1/2002 earnings but the earnings must be suspect.

My accounting for the 33% discount is as follows:
LTD market cap 4072
less: surplus cash -300
less: value of non-IBI revs -1000
less: publicly traded stock -323

Cost of LTD's IBI stake 2448
Market price of LTD'S IBI stake 3638
% discount 33%

The market cap’s I calculated as follows:
Shares/ price/value
ltd 428.6 9.50 4072
ltd's ibi shares 404.235 9.00 3638

ads 14.7 16.25 239
chrs 8.7 4.91 43
glyn 3.9 10.67 42
total publicly traded stock 323

The surplus cash was calculated as follows:
Current Assets 1900
Current Liabilities -1000
Long Term Debt -250
Long Term Liabilities -223
Report TOU ViolationShare This Post
 Public ReplyPrvt ReplyMark as Last ReadFilePrevious 10Next 10PreviousNext