>>Firstly, the messianic promise actually starts in Genesis 3, earlier than the verses that you mention.<<
Huh? Genesis 3 has no such thing. Do you want to be more specific?
>>Secondly, read Galatians 3 to put your mind at ease that the messianic promises were clearly stated, especially to Abraham.<<
My mind is still not at ease. Why would Paul know any better? He just references part of what I pointed out in my previous post (Gen 18:18). But you'll notice that he subsequently contradicts the very next verse (Gen 18:19) which says:
...to keep the way of the Lord by doing what is right and just...
Yet Paul was very much against doing and very much for faith alone.
So how does this reflect on Esau?
>>And finally, to your last point, imagine this! Someone dies for you. I mean a vicious, violent death. This death is the worst death any man ever had to suffer in human history...<<
You play fast and loose with the superlatives. There were many whose death was much worse than Jesus'. He died relatively quickly for a crucifiction (of which there were thousands). Many young children die in a much more painful and protracted way from disease. Prisoners of war are starved and tortured for years sometimes.
So, not only did Jesus get off pretty easy, but I think He is a big, divine Sucker for forgiving any of my sins... cause I've done some pretty bad stuff. Maybe he could get Johnny Cochran to negotiate for him and people would be willing to feed all the starving and dying in exchange... maybe also end fighting overseas. But to forgive expecting nothing in return is just poor business. ;-)
I say the above just to illustrate to you how silly it is to apply terms like "negotiate", and "forgive" and "sacrifice" to anything resembling a God. |
