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To: E. Charters who wrote (78437)10/14/2001 1:44:37 PM
From: Rarebird  Read Replies (1) of 116853
 
Chatterbox, by your own admittance, you don't even care:

"Most people do not have the time to care, they are too busy taking care of their own problems."

Message 16464815

So what's the problem Chatterbox boy? You like to chatter like a chatterbox just to hear yourself talk? Is Life boring for you or getting you down? Did that last bottle leave a bad taste in your mouth? Get a life Baby? Or, better yet, little Chatterbox boy, put your life on the line where your mouth is. You are all Sissy Talk and No Action.

Where does the Chatterbox get his information from? From his Chatterbox TV set? Yes, I've been in the Gaza Strip. I wouldn't necessarily believe that what your so-called holy refugees say here for the TV cameras is what they say to themselves in private. The Hamas People, regularly praise the suicide bombers and their attacks on the WTC and Israeli buses. The Hamas people think that the Jews were cursed in the Quran because they had betrayed the Prophet Muhammad. Not Israel, or oppressors, or Zionists. Jews. All Jews.

You know nothing Chatterbox Boy. First it should be pointed out that Palestine was never independent. Secondly, The first attempt toward independence of this territory came in 1947 when the UN proposed the Partition Plan (2 States, one Jewish and one Arab). The Arabs rejected the plan and attacked Israel (declared May 15, 1948). After the War of Independence, the territory was divided into 3 - The State of Israel, the Gaza Strip (occupied by Egypt) and the West Bank (occupied by Jordan). As a result of this War the population of the Gaza Strip grew from 100,000 to 320,000 due to the influx of refugees who fled their homes for various reasons. Today the Gaza Strip has well over 1,000,000 persons and the city of Gaza has one of highest population densities of the world.

I am well aware that the Jews are blamed for everything. The Jewish People accepted the Plan regardless of the very poor, indefensible borders and even more important with the fact that Jerusalem was not to be part of the State of Israel, but rather an international city . The Arab/Palestinian leadership rejected this plan, instructed their people to leave temporarily so, after the Arab armies drive the Jews into the sea , the Arabs would return to "all of Palestine". Had the Arabs/Palestinians accepted the Plan there would have been no refugee problem, no misery, no war, and everyone, hopefully, would have lived "happily ever after". So, don't put the blame on the Israelis, Chatterbox boy. The Arabs have never been interested in peace, in contrast to what Arafat says.

Another point I want to bring up here Chatterbox boy is the attitude of Arab intellectuals toward the peace process. It has been over 20 years since the peace treaty with Egypt has been signed and the Egyptian intellectual/professional society (university professors, lawyers, doctors, etc.) is still against the peace with Israel thus preventing the expected normalization. Egypt, to many Israelis, represents an experiment in peace. True, there hasn't been any shooting. But, this peace has been basically forced upon the future leaders (students and intellectuals/professionals) by a non-democratic government in Egypt. This does not represent a stable peace. The same situation exists in Jordan and among the Palestinians. Question: why do you think this is so Chatterbox boy and to what kind of future will this lead us? Perhaps I shouldn't ask because I know you don't give a hoot. You just like to chatter like an ignorant chatterbox boy.

Did you know that the Jewish population accepted the UN Partition plan which accorded us a diminished state? The Arabs, on the other hand, intent on preventing any Jewish entity in Palestine, rejected it. Yes, while the Jewish leadership accepted partition, all of the Arab members states of the UN - Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Yemen- voted against it. Upon the resolution's adoption, the Arab delegates declared partition invalid.

You cannot turn back the clock. I'm not a hard liner. I'm a radical liberal. Israelis and Arabs must continue speaking with each other, trying to find some common ground. But as long as the PLO refuses to recognize the State of Israel, they are dead meat and deserve even worse than they have already received.
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