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Politics : High Tolerance Plasticity

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To: kodiak_bull who wrote (9513)10/15/2001 1:27:41 PM
From: Steeliejim  Read Replies (1) of 23153
 
You seem to be a student of history--except only those portions of history that support your prejudices. The only casualties on mainland US in World War II were civilian. A family picnicking in Oregon--victims of the incendiary balloon attack by the Japanese who lofted thousands into the air in the hopes that they would land all over the US, start fires, and instill terror--IN THE CIVILIAN POPULACE. The last time I looked, a drifting balloon is not all that easy to aim at a military installation.

If I get your drift, ahem, you believe that cracking down on all of Islamic origin would put pressure on Islamic nations to mend their ways, and pressure them to our way of thinking, if not living. Just what we need, more prejudicial treatment to tip more moderate Muslims toward extremism. And yeah, I do think moderate Muslims could/should be doing more to win the battle of the minds of the many faces Islam.

When in history has police state rule worked for more than a short time, and what kind of life do the conquerors, as well as the vanquished have under police rule? Look at Israel for a current example. Sure, there are Islamic extremists that want the demise of Israel. But the settling of 7000 Jews among over a million Palestinians, and the permanent state of chaos that has resulted, is just nuts. A Palestinian state doesn't of itself guarantee peace, but without a Palestinian state, peace is guaranteed never to exist for Israel.

While I certainly agree that we, and especially Canada to the north, have been way to lenient regarding foreign national entry policies, there are many things we can do to tighten up our borders without subverting the Constitution. Ironically, big ag and businesses, and their lobbied and greased client politicians are as much to blame for our porous borders as liberal policies. Any time there has been a push on businesses to require proof of legal residency as a condition of employment, they have screamed bloody murder in fear of losing cheap labor. In the old days, immigrants were required to have sponsors who would be responsible for them.

As for Japanese internment, it had nothing to do with their protection. We didn't intern people of German descent, and there were plenty of them. If we had, we would have interned Charles Lindberg, an avowed Nazi sympathizer.

Here's one vote for Dale.
Jim
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