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To: Dan3 who wrote (147131)11/8/2001 7:35:55 AM
From: semiconeng  Read Replies (2) of 186894
 
By using the notched gate process to etch gate sizes down to what would normally be the next major node (so they get .13 gates from their .18 process) Intel managed to keep from sliding too far behind Athlon in performance, but the resulting processors are fairly fragile, and they've also been "eating their future" by using up much of the benefit that otherwise would be gained when moving to a copper .13 from an aluminum .18 process.

---SIGH... As I have already explained to you Dan, the Notched Poly Process DOES NOT USE 0.13u GATES. The 0.18u Process used 100nm Gates, which is much larger than the 70nm gates that intel claims for 0.13u, so your claim is false:
content.techweb.com

"The "notched-poly" process refinement described by Tahir Ghani, senior engineer with Intel's logic technology development group in Portland, Ore., has already been included in Intel's 0.18-micron CMOS process and in circuits manufactured with transistor gate lengths of 0.1 micron (100 nanometers)."

PS - PIII went from 1.1GHZ on aluminum .18 to 1.26GHZ on copper .13 for a gain of only 15%

---Once again, your distortion of reality, would be comical, if it wasn't so sad. Intel's Tualatin has received rave reviews from just about every website around, almost to the point of "Mike" and company calling them idiots for discontinuing it. It's performance in applications far exceeds Coppermine..... And isn't that what you "AMDreamers" keep saying is most important about K7???

:-)

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