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Strategies & Market Trends : Zeev's Turnips - No Politics

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To: lh56 who wrote (4507)11/9/2001 11:45:05 PM
From: mishedlo  Read Replies (3) of 99280
 
Max pain is the point at which the most options expire worthless.

Several months in a row INTC closed within pennies of it.
In general the more options the more reliable it is.
For whatever reason MSFT usually closes above pain.
I do not know why. Some sort of QQQ balancing - perhaps?

In the middle of a bull run, or bear plunge pain is totally worthless. In a normal market or sideways market it is quite reliable.

I look at CBOE on stocks I am interested in.
If you see 10000 puts and 10000 calls on a stock at say 15, and ther are no other puts or calls, figure the damn stock will close at precicely 15.

You will notice that this does not always work. What if there were 10,000 buys of calls at 15 and 10,000 sells of naked puts at 15. That stock could fall to 5 and it would look like pain was way way off, when in fact any close below 15 would suffice for pain purposes (but in this case the lower the better for the option sellers).

That is just one of the problems with pain.
Who owns the puts and calls?
It USUALLY balances out but not always.

M
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