>>fair enough. but it hasn't been reasonable now has it?<<
nope. one reason is that we have a trade off. bigger govt and better immigration control vs smaller govt and less immigration control.
>>so are open borders, which is essentially what we have.<<
yup. are you advocating that govt solve this problem for you? perhaps you ought to take up arms at the border (then again, maybe not! ;-). we *know* more govt won't help, right? ;-)
>>it might not be a bad idea to temporarily shut them down until we get a handle on the terror situation.<<
again, are you advocating a bigger govt at the borders? ;-)
>>only if we choose those kind of politicians. the politicians are a function of the electorate who puts them in positions of power. we have the power to throw them out of office if they subvert our will. so the blame lies with our society as a whole, not just with politicians.<<
correctomundo. that is one reason i keep saying america wants what they get - who is craig to override america's will? the problem w/ our country is that everyone votes in their self interest - often to the detriment of others in this nation. that is why so many pork barrel types get elected. pork is great... when your kids are fed by the pork fat.
>>that is precisely why our founding fathers made it clear when drafting the declaration of independence that this newly desired form of government should answer to a higher power.<<
yes, but they were careful not to become what they so desperately wanted to leave - religious intolerance. it is a fine line we are walking.
>>We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness<<
except women and black slaves, right? you see, selfishness often guided the hypocrisy of our founding fathers. words are cheap. actions speak much louder b/c they are what have true meaning.
1. george washington died of syphilis (yeah, right he never lied! ;-).
2. thomas jefferson had an affair with sally hemmings (slave) and sold his children into slavery.
3. alexander hamilton had at least one affair and took out.
of course, some folks want to forget these types of things rather than have an honest discussion of reality. ;-) |
