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Gold/Mining/Energy : Canadian REITS, Trusts & Dividend Stocks

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To: stan_hughes who wrote (1919)11/14/2001 4:59:05 PM
From: Peter W. Panchyshyn  Read Replies (1) of 11633
 
So if you're so interested in how I'm doing, go back and look up the date when I had the audacity to suggest that
maybe the trusts were heading south. You can bet your lean-to that I was long gone before I made that statement.
Next, draw a chart of a basket of trusts using that date for a baseline, and then you tell me whether or not I'm ahead right now, even after distributions.

----------- This has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard anyone say about justifying their own. Now lets do a bit of a comparison. We have on the one end ,a person who has detailed his methods and purchases in a public forum where postings are time and date stamped giving documented evidence of what he has done, which can be verified against the historical trading numbers ( ME) . On the other end we have a mutual fund investor in several CDN Stock funds , someone asks him how he has done compared to the other person. His answer well he has been investing since when the TSE was at 1000 (his base line) the index is now at 7000 he is up 700%. """""""""""HE (YOU) IS WAY AHEAD""""""""""""""" ------------------ The trouble is that this tells NOTHING. What has he bought??? When has he bought it???????? Was he in any "dog" (worst performing funds) funds HE JUST MAKES A BLANKET STATEMENT AND THAT IS ALL THE PROOF HE NEEDS.. AND HE EXPECTS EVERYONE ELSE TO JUST BELIEVE IT. GET REAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'll save you the trouble - can you say "STAN'S WAY AHEAD"? I knew you could.

------------ And further this tells absolutely nothing about what you were ""IN"" during and before the time in question (when the trusts began their fall) . Were you in a savings account? That could very well be, you don't tell us. So then since you don't tell it is fair to assume that yes you were in a savings account. Now compare the return from a savings account to a person (me) who has detailed his activities of buy/hold/accumulate on weakness and collect current high income. Just who is way ahead then? Now lets assume that you were not in a savings account. What then? You don't say. (( What were your hits and their returns? Did you have misses and what were their lossess? How do the two work out at the end?)) And more importantly you provide absolutely no documentation whatsoever to support yourself. So unless you are going to provide some. ASKING FOR THE UPTEENTH PLUS TIME, AND STILL NOTHING FORTH COMING. How can you compare NOTHING (your part) to
DOCUMENTED (on my part). The simple fact is that you cannot. These juvenile attempts of yours are just so LAME. Why don't you just grow up and show the real and documented. Then we can do a proper comparison. THEN WE WILL REALLY SEE. But again you just won't. NO BALLS WHATSOEVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -----------------------

1. When I say I like the trusts a lot, that means that I'm LONG.
2. When I say I think people should wait a bit before jumping in, that means that I'm OUT.
3. If I ever tell you that I think you should mortgage your grandmother to raise the margin to sell everything in sight, that would mean that I think you should be SHORT.
Now then, that wasn't so hard, was it?

---------------- Well then according to this little revelation of yours. When you said that the price of natural gas was absolutely going to fall much further and towards $1. When you told people that you did not want to be long that was for sure ( check that post of yours) then you were ""SHORT"" . You were short then SHN.UN and NCF.UN and we all know what happened to those ( check Lorne's postings on the matter ) they turned the other direction and rose ( NCF from $10.80 to $14.80) . HEAVY LOSSES FOR YOU ON THOSE. Thanks for the confirmation on that. And that wasn't hard at all. -----------------------------

I don't have any 20 year holdings, I'm a sector player and I move in and out as the situation warrants it.

-------------- Yes I see clearly the results of your playing, moving in and out. You get it completely dead wrong. Natural gas never did fall to $1 it actually ended up rising to $3.50 CDN and higher. And you sit in a savings account missing some of the best buying opportunities and not receiving any current high income. CLEARLY NOT THE WINNER YOU PRETEND TO BE -----------------------------------------

Would you like to know how I've done for the past 20 years so you can make comparisons and declare yourself the winner regardless of the actual data?

------------ This makes no sense, you ask if I would like the data to be able to compare so I can declare myself the winner regardless of what the actual data says. BUT YOU STILL DO NOT PROVIDE ANY DATA WHATSOEVER. You really are LAME --------------

You obviously have a lot more time on your hands than I do

--------- Thats what real and not imagined success brings to those that have it --------------

, worrying about how someone else might be doing

--------- I dont worry about what you do. Your an amateur. With no ability and no balls to even provide one bit of evidence to back up your outrageous claims of superior returns. I am just here to press you do provide the info for those in the trusts that want all the real and comp[lete info so they can make an informed complete and the best decision for themselves. ---------------

I have to get ready for the open now, but before I go, have you noticed that January WTI is down $1.70 a barrel this
morning. That can't be good, can it?

-------- Well lets see my FPG.UN is up $0.25 to $10.00 today Yes it has had quite the upside move today. And over the past few days. AE.UN is up a couple of cents. My trusts of trusts are down a few cents. My REIT is up a little. The others are down for the day but still up over my last purchases made on them AY.UN , NCF.UN . My longer term helds ERF and PGF are also down but well above my cost base. And ever single one is still going to be paying out high income in the foreseeable months ahead. NOW WHAT IS NOT SO GOOD ABOUT THAT !!!!!!!!!!!!! --------------- YOU REALLY ARE LAME. ------------------------------- As allways I let the real data and the real facts show what is really happening. UNDISPUTABLE except by the superior traders as usual. ----------------------
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